For those inside Intel. Have you considered looking for a career now or soon elsewhere? Staying longer at Intel will depreciate you in the marketplac. Especially for the younger crowd, you know a career at Intel is impossible due to the lack of direction and end of Moore's law. Any luck applying before worse times come? Thoughts?
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Biggest mistake I made is to stay too long at Intel. You end up siloed and swirling in a backwater eddy. Your work becomes too Intel-specific. It is not just Intel to be honest. The old models of lifetime careers at one company are passe. Where seniority used to be an advantage, it is now a liability. Take a tip from the Millennials and GenY. Statistics show they never stay anywhere more than a couple of years. They want more money? More prestige? They get new certifications and move on to a new company at a higher salary.
@JpmqYvD-mmf The VSP algorithm exactly targeted those people and the next step for them will be ISP, LOL
OP. The standard technique is to slot you as a highly specialized employee and keep you there. You neither have the time to look elsewhere or rotate into another position. If you do rotate, god help you as you are now up against veterans in that slot with no mercy. Best to trash the tactics and strategy. Just keep away.
From another thread:
Let's say my company has 5 people. 1 manager and 4 worker bees. There is no growth so the employee count stays at 5 for a decade or more.
Do all 5 people become managers? Who does the work?
This is the situation at Intel - no growth means limited opportunities for advancement.
@rhb +1 "Don't be fooled into believing you are special and valuable, at any moment winds and your management could change and you'll be kicked to the curb."
One of my dear colleagues got kicked out the month after his manager was showing his work as great in a BUM meeting with upper management. What a backstabber.
My 2cents after a couple decades and making a good, really good salary. Don't be fooled into believing you are special and valuable, at any moment winds and your management could change and you'll be kicked to the curb. Things aren't pretty at intel and it will get worse as x86 is falling, server growth is slow, Moore's Law has ended at least at Intel, and competing in commodity is going to require complete new structure and philosophy that the management there simply doesn't understand.
It was too easy to just get swept along year after year 3% raise, a few thousand more RSU, smaller but still nice SERP contribution, and work 7 days a week 70-80 hours a week. Get a promo every now and than. I can't remember a sabbatical not postponed, nor a vacation where I didn't take email and phone calls on it.
Got a nice new project, got a nice new manager, got a nice L4 stock, first in 20 years. Got shown the door and had 5' to pack and no time to say goodbye to anyone, some known for two decades. What a nice new manager! He and HR were nice enough to tell me they'd host a retirement party for me... yeah the guy who gave me my first L4 would host my retirement party, no thanks.
I had gotten calls from headhunters always declined for the past few years. Well I called them, and had plenty of offers. I was lucky, I think in my specific area I'm pretty good, actually really good, and it seems like all the companies wanted me. But if and when big layoffs come and the market is swimming with "good" and "desperate" intelers the market might not be so robust for average Joe.
The hard part, well none of those companies are located where I am. Have to relocate and the whole family in turmoil, all because of one L4 from a new manager. ACT what a brilliant and successful move, the company will really be better?
Advice, start now, even if you got a bright job now, situation can change in a flash, build network get to know potential companies and managers. The reality is job hunting is a slow process, for the unemployed it can't move fast enough, for the hiring they can take their time, and they often do. When ACT2 and ACT3 happen you'll be happy you got things going compared to your friends who didn't
You are correct about the career situation, OP! We all make mistakes and have intentions of staying with an employer for a significant time. After all, I don't think anyone enjoys the job search, especially if unemployed. The problem working at Intel is getting pigron-holed into a role much too specific and not really useful to the outside world. Staying too long in such a role does, indeed, hurt your chances for a stronger position outside.
I'm speaking on behalf of someone that wanted a job at Intel BADLY after working there for a few years as a GB. I told her 'the grass isn't greener, in fact, it's brown and dead. You only THINK you want to work there, you'd be better off finding a job elsewhere'. Did that stop her? No, it didn't and she got a job there recently.
Her thinking? She'll take a very well paid job with good benefits for however long she can keep it before she's tossed out. Makes sense if you're of that mindframe. Do it till you can't do it no mo', then move on.