I read on the DoE news page that if the school closes then those attending with any gov student loans with ITT could get them 'discharged'. I'm now currently looking for new school... picking a public one this time.
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Some of the people (homeless, mental, etc) were needing to concentrate on getting stabilized before such a big undertaking as a college degree, with absolutely no prep given by ITT (such as basic refresher & GED review). Being tossed in with others in much better situations, left them woefully behind & the usual & constant recipe for disaster.
If you had paid top dollar (like 4x the normal cost) to attend a programming class, would you be suspicious if the two people next to you couldn't tell you how much 5 times 8 was?
"The truth is that most 'students' at ITT wouldn't be able to handle real college coursework. Real college: if you miss two classes in a semester you fail."
Seriously, you thought your post was so great it was worth posting twice? Okay, I'll respond twice.
Sorry, but you fail. Real colleges don't babysit, spoon feed or handhold. They don't require attendance in most cases. Exceptions sometimes if a professional license will be granted as part of the coursework. But they will make more of an effort than ITT-Tech to help you construct a more manageable college path, so you will be more likely to succeed on your own merit -- which is a lot more than scam schools do.
Wow, before coming off as so superior, you should try actually going to a real college yourself first.
The truth is that most "students" at ITT wouldn't be able to handle real college coursework. Real college: if you miss two classes in a semester you fail. If you don't already know how to use a computer (unlike nearly all my ITT students) you'll fail before you even start, heck you'd probably fail the 5th grade in a suburban middle school.
I'm not saying this to be mean, but out of the 403 students at my campus maybe 3 of them might be able to make it in an actual college (you know, a place with "State" and/or "University" in its name).
Transfer a few credits and fail out; or loan forgiveness? Loan forgiveness!
At the Dearborn campus we had homeless people, people who couldn't bathe themselves and reeked, and kids from Detroit high schools who could barely read, couldn't use a Windows desktop (like my 6 year old nephew can), couldn't even fill out the admissions paperwork themselves. It was the only place I ever worked were i had to show people how to use a pencil sharpener ON A DAILY BASIS!
They let everyone in because it was a scam. They told everyone they "scored the highest ever on the entrance exam" because it was a scam. In 2013 they got rid of the entrance exam totally. The textbooks were all "Custom ITT editions" because they were for fake classes!
You were never a college student, you were a victim and I'm sorry about that. I quit and took a lower paying job to escape after less than two years.
The chances of your being one of the 2 or 3 out of over 400 that "might" actually somehow muddle through a real college (after somehow getting past actual entrance exams / questionnaire) is basically nothing.
File for loan forgiveness. Get a job: around 80% of the jobs in the USA require ZERO COLLEGE ANYWAY!
The ITT classes were worthless. If you didn't notice that you're not savvy enough for college, or even a suburban middle school for that matter: get the loan forgiveness and get a job. Save your money and investigate real colleges later on. Real colleges by the way are about half the price of ITT!
The sad thing is that almost no actual students will see this because they still can't use the internet. That's not a joke or sarcasm, sadly.
"ITT: I've never seen so many face tattoos before!" (Also true, sadly). Think about it, you could go to Harvard but with a bunch of face tattoos you'd still not get a job. There was a 68 year old woman in the Criminal Justice school: she thought she'd get hired by the Detroit Police department after graduation! 68 years old and some days she didn't wear her dentures (her "flipper" she called them?).
Delusional mental cases, homeless people, people right out of prison, and naïve ghetto kids: they didn't deserve to get scammed but they were never going to be college graduates anyway. We had many students living in homeless shelters! Actual homeless people! They were there not because of the Obama economy but because they were nuts and heard voices all the time!
Basically: fake school used social security numbers of fake students to get federal tax payer money. Forgive the loans, put the heads in prison, send the students to grocery bagger / burger flipper training.
"University of Phoenix is a great bridge school"
Absolute nonsense. For any ITT students considering next steps - don't make the decision alone or under pressure. Talk to those who you trust. Sign nothing in a hurry. Give yourself options. If you had some professors at ITT who you trusted and respected try asking for their thoughts - they know you and your program and may have pertinent local information.
Let me educate the comment relating to utilization of University of Phoenix as a "bridge school." I am a full-time professor at a non-profit public tax supported academic institution. At least in our system it is a faculty responsibility to determine if a petition for transfer of a course is to be granted. Not the responsibility of some pin headed bean counter who is concerned about whether the corporation can meet shareholder expectations relative to this quarter's dividend.
The reason is simple. Faculty are there to protect an education's actual value. While it would be nice to be able to trust administrators and accreditation bodies to do that, you can see with what has happened at "for profit" institutions, things do not work out very well under that model.
University of Phoenix
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
SAME AS ITT
NEXT UP
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow. Pheonix reps have unfiltrated. Do NOT go from one for-profit to another.
If your credits won't transfer, University of Phoenix is a great bridge school, I hear. You can transfer there for a semester as they will accept ITT Tech credits, then transfer to a public college as University of Phoenix IS regionally accredited and their credits will transfer to a public college. This is especially fruitful for students in the latter part of their education.
Smart move!