I work at HP Enterprise and it's going through layoffs as our divisions are sold off, spun off, and the company is and has been going downhill for a while. I need to get the hell out of there. Yesterday, I was made an offer at Intel after a few weeks of interviews.
What I want to know is am I essentially jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire by moving from HP Enterprise to Intel? Am I trading one set of problems for a similar set of other problems?
all depends. If your goal is less than 4 yrs, then just look at the offer and then jump ship after 2-3 years
I went from HP to Intel more than 10 years ago. Now I am out of Intel and couldn't be happier. I have to say that the culture at Intel is worst (a lot worst) than HP. But Intel is a little bit more stable (no big swing up or down) than HP since it does not have the immediately affect with the consumers.
If you're over 40 you'll be out of Intel in 3 yrs max!
Depends on a lot of things, including role (tech, business, sales) and physical location. A lot of people who are in remote places are being forced to move to Hillsboro or Santa Clara.
HPE is a sh!tty place. Intel is a sh!tty place. Having a job is better than not having one.
If you have not personally been laid off, and still see your group and position within HPE as secure, I would counsel staying unless the job role is a leg up in position and compensation.
Because then you can do a year or two and look for the next step up.
If it's simply a "come do the same kind of stuff for the same kind of pay and see if you can get 10 years out of it", you are better off seeking an alternative to Intel. Not that there are much better opportunities out there as the semiconductor industry as a whole is going to sh-- in terms of individual contributor or team lead opportunities.
Blame the URM little guy to deflect from the executives and their big mess. How many executives are URMs?
Until it's decided that SWM is the new URM @1yko. lol
just Fyi, if you're a URM (under represented minority) you'll have a lot more leverage and get better treatment generally from the bureaucracy...
You should circle back to the contact person who extended the offer and ask him/her the following: " (1) Why did Intel drive a reduction in force of 12,000 and then extend offers to me and thousands of others? (2) Doesn't this indicate a shortsightedness on Intel's part and an inability to repurpose employees to more strategic efforts? (3) What assurances do I have that I won't be treated in the same "disposable" manner?
Then let this thread know how Intel's contact responded and what your response was too. Good luck with your decision.
Depends on whether you're an engineer or on business side. Yes it's horrible either way as you have to watch your back for back stabbing peers and managers; you'll find out in the next focal. However, you should at very least be safe with your first focal. Overall Intel still has some of the best benefits out there, but whether you'll be able to stay long enough to enjoy these benefits, that is the question.
Intel is a one toy company....x86. They couldn't diversity beyond that. Neither foundry, mobile, IoT and now data center is the next big thing due to poor execution. I'd pass.
I think it depends what you want to do. If you are not deeply integral to designing chips in your area of expertise, then come in with your eyes open, particularly if your goal is career longevity or building wonderful things or new businesses. Non-chip design and manufacturing parts of the company - software, systems, sales/marketing, research and development - have a lot of people in them, but they aren't deeply strategic in the end game, and they change a lot merely with the whims of who's in charge this year. So coming from HPE, I imagine you are more of a systems expert perhaps? Not a lot of security in the system areas within Intel.
Stay where you are and you'll be better off. The interviewers probably lied to you about the state of the company. Company growth has completely stagnated so accepting a position would be very risky. The company has been purging employees and replacing with recent college grads. It's like an Orwellian society. Big Brother is always around with prying eyes. If they want to get rid of you, they will put you in a position to fail. As others on this thread have stated, HP has already gone through the worst while Intel is still sliding. Finally, the CEO is a complete douchebag, has no business experience, and has no clue what he is doing. Too many red flags.
I think at this point HPE is much better than Intel. HP already went through the worst part of layoffs, company split, etc. while Intel is just sliding down that path and there's still quite a ways before hitting bottom. I know several friends at HPE and they are doing well. Was actually thinking of going the opposite route myself (Intel --> HPE). Intel has become really really crappy post-ACT.
I don't know hp but I also could never imagine how bad intel has become. You're landing in the most corrupt, toxic, backstabbing environment possible. There is absolutely no way to plan a future at intel. It does not matter how good you are, it only matters if you are better then your peers in boot licking, 'networking' and stomping over peers. You will be new, so expect to be sabotaged at every step. Next spring you'll get to know focal, and you'll understand what people here are talking about.
Duh.
This is far from the truth: Am I trading one set of problems for a similar set of other problems?
It's not similar.... it's worse. Trust us when we say that. Run, don't walk.
Highly risky to go into tech now. Be careful!
Stay where you are at an go interview with another company. You will be going from bad to worse!