Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

Ok, I see the pattern. When reality does not work out to your liking just create an alternative one of your own. Hope that works out for you rednecks.

-4lae, you can disregard posts from hypocrite liberals like -4jyx. I have read the posts of these self-validating selfish entitled liberal democrat Hillary/Bernie type voters time and time again. They often interject the "holier than thou" comments such as " you need to contribute more" , or " you should volunteer at a church or soup kitchen - it makes you feel good -have a nice day!" as they sit on their pretty little entitled A$$ES and judge others. If you ask them what they contribute to or volunteer, you get nothing but crickets or obviously a fake come-back. It's the stereotypical liberal entitled Hillary voter trademark. But they want you to pay higher taxes so that THEY benefit.

"Do as I say, don't do as I do" That's the Standard Entitled Liberal Democrat Hypocrite Mantra.

I will correct you, you arrogant right-wing SOB, you said "70% say she is not trustworthy" You are exaggerating that a bit, don't you think, master of hyperbole? I don't know if there is any more recent data or if it has even changed at all, but you are WAY OFF, Jerk-off!!! You are off by at least one percent!!!!!

"In an NBC-Wall Street Journal poll in late June, 69 percent of respondents said they were concerned that Clinton has a record or reputation as untrustworthy. "

@IJ9ZYCj-4jyx, Wow you really have a lot of hatred and vitriol to spew at other posters on this site, dude. "Rush Limbo"??? What are you, an old burned out butthurt laid-off piece of deadwood hippie who missed his food-stamp check? I don't really think Rush is playing any more or has many listeners , please do catch up, sweetheart, it's 2016!! Take your meds and check back with the nurses station if you have any more adverse reactions - LOL

-4hlv- "Correct me if I'm wrong". Ok you’re wrong and delusional. Get some help with your depression and anger issues: it is really getting bad. Stop listening to Rush Limbo (that’s not helping anything). Get out of the house into the sunshine. Stop drinking. Maybe volunteer down at your church or local Community Center. You will feel much better!

Question: How is it that two hicks from Arkansas (guess which two hicks,... it's not hard,... you'll figure it out) and who, by most standards, are NOT wealthy, manage to claw their way into the highest echelons of government, and within what most of us would call "an average career, timewise", have amasses something in excess of $100 million? Now,... the brain-dead Left will shout "well, well, they gave SPEACHES, an' THAT's how they got their money!" Yes, that is true. They did "give speaches". But, more questions arise: 1) how much should a speech, even if it's a "good" speech, cost(?); 2) are the limits of decorum, not to mention, the LAW, being stretched, or broken, by allowing public servants to leverage their positions of power, for personal gain, at the tax-payer's expense(????); 3) and, perhaps most importantly, does not the temptation to engage in quid pro quo exchange amplify by orders of magnitude, as the individuals scope of power, within government, increases, if such activity is condoned(??????????). We are all expected to just accept that the Clintons have become ridiculously wealthy, during their respective tenures as OUR SERVANTS. We are expected to never question their tactics, motives, methods, or, for that matter, the growing number of people whose deaths share a common thread,... one, or the other, Clinton, either ordered the attack (ref: Waco, where women and children were heartlessly burned alive, thanks to Bubba and Janet Reno), failed to provide adequate protection (ref: Benghazi, when the fat sow ignored pleas for more security), or simply acted the coward (ref: Benghazi, again, when fat, waddling little Hillary simply ignored the slaughter of her embassy staff, then lied about the causes,... of course, the g.@.y a.@@ clown, Barry, was at the TOP of that dung heap of treachery, deceit, and cowardice, but he deserves a special place in H.#.LL, which we won't go into, here). These are incontrovertible facts. These things happened. The Clintons, whether by design, or incompetence, were directly involved. I say,... anyone who votes for a Clinton is, therefore, a brain-dead fool, apparently driven by motives that can not be classified as 'normal'.

@IJ9ZYCj-4lgk, Don't you have anything else to rant about? Everyone knows that Crooked Hillary is dishonest and the most corrupt person in politics. That isn't even news anymore. Hell, she has something like 70% of the American public saying she is not trustworthy in the polls? Correct me if I'm wrong. Anyone who votes for her has to either be brain-dead or seriously in need of gubmint bennies because they can't or are too lazy to support themselves and a democrat in the white house is their only chance of them continuing to sponge off of the hard-working taxpayers, the liberal democrat way.

But of Course, The magical mysterious rumors about Trump are all true but everything about Hillary is false and they area all the product of some right wing conspiracy, such as the one which insisted that Bill was having sex with that woman. He is really an honest, dedicated, monogamous gentleman, exclusive with Shillarity. Also, there was nothing Classified in the E-mails that Shill Deleted, and she has never lied to anyone, and Benghazi was caused by a video.

But the things that people fabricate about Trump because they cannot find any legitimate dirt on him are all true. Keep on reading, they will make up some more stuff soon to entertain you! ROTFLMAO!!!.

Here is a link to the open letter from the 50 former Republican security advisors. https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3007589/Nationalsecurityletter.pdf

Read it for yourself, it's quite damning. And if you don't recognize at least some of the names, then you haven't been paying much attention to politics over the years. Of course, it's just their opinion, but they are all people who know a lot more about keeping the country safe than you'll ever know, and they have worked for Republican administrations, so they have every reason to either endorse Trump or say nothing. But the felt that he posed such a danger that they could not in good conscience keep quiet.

4qci - you are delusional... And the more you post the clearer it is.

The information about Hillary being involved in all of those scandals, accepting drug kingpin donations, lying repeatedly, and getting fired from one of her first jobs for lying and ethics violations is all true, look it up and research it yourself. Google is your friend. Look for multiple sources/references, not just one or two. And this is who we have running for president. You have to REALLY want handouts and what someone else has earned and feel like a victim and envious of those more successful than you to be that jealous that you would think voting for such a criminal would give you a leg up.

What ever happened to "don't ask what your country can do for you but ask what you can do for your country" Democrats? I guess the good old days are gone, huh fellas?

Yes, The magical mysterious rumors about Trump are all true but everything about Hillary is false and they area all the product of some right wing conspiracy, such as the one which insisted that Bill was having sex with that woman. He is really an honest, dedicated, monogamous gentleman, exclusive with Shillarity. Also, there was nothing Classified in the E-mails that Shill Deleted, and she has never lied to anyone, and Benghazi was caused by a video.

But the things that people fabricate about Trump because they cannot find any legitimate dirt on him are all true. Keep on reading, they will make up some more stuff soon to entertain you! ROTFLMAO!!!.

The problem with the far right (and far left for that matter) is they spend so much time talking just to themselves and villainizing the "other" that they begin to form their own reality ... and then they get most upset when called back to earth. Go figure.

CNN earlier today: Forty-four prominent Demoncrap foreign policy and national security experts -- many veterans of Kenyan Barry Soetoro Obarrassment's administration -- have signed a letter denouncing Hitlary Clinton's presidential candidacy and pledging not to vote for her. The letter, first reported by The New York Post Monday, warns: "We are convinced that in the Oval Office where Bill got his joint smoked numerous times by Monica, she would be the most reckless, obnoxious, unqualified, incompetent, dishonest and unethical President in American history." The brain-dead criminal, murderous, blood-on-her-hands, list of victims a mile long, list of offenses and crimes which did not get prosecuted a mile long thw least of which were Whitewater, Travelgate, Vince Foster, Chinagate, Drug Dealer donor Jorge Cabrera, etc. The list is endless, the woman has some much blood and dirt on her hands. Enough said.

@4hai - I don't get it. You respond to a discussion of a real event with an imaginary one. What's your point, to show how untruthful and mentally lazy Trump supporters are? If you're gonna bother to respond, at least find something truthful, I mean there's plenty of people who are critical of Clinton that you could quote. At least put in some effort.

Yup, except the Trump one is true!

Wow, that really is some believable, Earth -shattering news that you guys are making up!! LMAO!!

MSNBC earlier today: Numerous prominent Democrat foreign policy and national security experts -- many veterans of Bill Clinton/MonicaLewinsky's administration -- have signed a letter denouncing Hillary Clinton's presidential candidacy and pledging not to vote for her. The letter, first reported by The Huffington Post Monday, warns: "We are convinced that in the Oval Office, she would be the most reckless, deceiving, lying, desttuctive and pathetically incompetent President in American history, even worse than Obama, who has been the most destructive to date" Enough said.

CNN earlier today: Fifty prominent Republican foreign policy and national security experts -- many veterans of George W. Bush's administration -- have signed a letter denouncing Donald Trump's presidential candidacy and pledging not to vote for him. The letter, first reported by The New York Times Monday, warns: "We are convinced that in the Oval Office, he would be the most reckless President in American history." Enough said.

Even 5% is too much if it's getting into the wrong hands, which in many cases it is obvious that it is, especially Foodstamps. I am poor compared to some of the Foodstamp recipients who drive up in their tricked out cars and pick up the cartloads of expensive high end stuff that I cannot afford. After all, I have to pay for it, so I watch what I spend, doesn't everyone who works? And also I have to pay for THEIR cart full of groceries. So I get to stretch out my beans, rice, etc. But that's OK. I enjoy cooking and saving and can cook much better than the 2-bit douche-bags who probably can't even cook their free steaks properly.

And who says 5% of the federal budget is a small amount? That could go to education, People who can pass drug tests, people who want to actually contribute, learn, etc. and the truly disabled.

I am not against helping people out. But a lot of these programs have been abused for years and there is no accountability. That's the bigger problem than the programs themselves. If the programs had better accountability, then I believe the excessive spending would be reduced eventually.

3kuu- way more? As they say your entitled to you own opinions but not your own facts. One could argue welfare is as high as %12, depending on exactly how you count some of the health care payments (the %5 figure related to direct payments to those incredibly lazy non-working poor that you are so worried about: http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/02/how-much-do-we-spend-nonworking-poor). The biggest expenses by far are entitlements and defense. As to the mythical fraud and waste savings just waiting to be retrieved by improved office holders and your paranoia about the government you elected to office, I leave you to find your own solutions (I am sure there is some government support for mental health services should you not be able to afford them on your own ;-).

What is that, 3nfu? You think we only spend 5% of the total federal budget on welfare? Are you insane? It's way more than that. The government can't be trusted either for tracking the real amount. Fraud and waste alone is large enough to run some small countries in this world.

3bav – Interesting how anyone that does not agree with any of the endless blabber you spew, or does no vote in ways that best support your personal interests, must be a morons. We spend 5% of the total federal budget on welfare (mostly for food stamps and elderly nursing home patients, but yes a bit for aid to dependent children families). If such small total payments somehow corrupts the whole voting process, then such cheap compassion for the less fortunate probably all for the better in my book. It is interesting to note that those that did not finish high school tend to poll for Trump, whereas college-educated folks are overwhelmingly anti-Trump, so the empirical evidence does not support your ”morons” hypothesis (quite the opposite). The stupid people are the Rush Limbaugh dittoheads like Joe the unlicensed plumber, poor white guys who are somehow convicted to be outraged by the inheritance tax (stupid because they have become convinced to vote against their personal interests). Or the Christian right, who can be distracted by their inability to control the behaviour of others (as in “oh my god the g--s are coming out of the closet”) that they also vote against their broader interests. It’s the 1% that wishes to minimize any taxes they need to pay (capital gains and inheritance tax), even if it means a third word crumbling infrastructure (case in point, see the roads in Houston?). You’re correct the 1% will not get what they want directly from a popular vote (because this leaves the great unwashed middle class to pay all the bills to make this country run). The answer then is to convince a lot of real morons to vote your way, against their own interests. What seems to upset you most is that “liberals” vote to be charitable, in many instances against their direct interests I grant you, but I do not agree that that makes them morons (true Christians maybe).

We're so far off topic, folks.

30bf - Donald? That YOU?

If Donald Trump becomes President it could be the end of civilization. He is an egotistical narcissist who knows nothing except how to insult people on Twitter. He has no serious policies and is mentally unstable.

3xjf - There are none so blind as those who will not see.

More likely, as Former Republican Governor of Michigan William Milliken indicated, voting for Trump is a choice to “embark on a path that has doomed other governments and nations throughout history.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/lezlee-westine-endorses-clinton-226785#ixzz4GlFWpT9O

No, you are also wrong.

The term is "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN". That's what we'll get if somehow, Trump wins the Presidency.

No, "idiocracy" and "ineptocracy" are made-up terms for people who have trouble with big words or think that a T-shirt will make them look clever. The correct word is "kakistocracy" meaning "government by the worst persons". It is what we'll have if Trump somehow wins.

I believe that -bac is actually referring to the term "ineptacracy" instead of ". This term became popular during early Obama years and even had a tee shirt with definition on it..... Way too unPC these days. Google it to see how close we are to its reality.

3bav - You're probably right. Except, to call our "leaders" fools is to fail to appreciate their cunningness. Now, I would be the FIRST to express nothing but unadulterated loathing for the likes of Obama, Kerry, Clinton, et al, and I feel the same toward a growing portion of the Republican establishment, as well,... but, as inept, as clueless, as ham-fisted, as obtuse, as out of touch as they appear to be, they do manifest a certain, I'll call it a "raw" intelligence, in their ability to sway a great portion of the voting public. That public's questionable level of intelligence does exacerbate the problem, and if not factored in to polling results, etc., it certainly serves to "color" the strengths and weaknesses of our "leaders", most often serving to make them appear to be "brighter" than they really are. But, the world has always given us people like Obama and Hillary, so there must be other factors at work, here, today. To that end, I believe we're merely witnessing the results of long running, consistent efforts (a biased Press Corp, appealing to the "feel good" emotions of 'togetherness' and to innate fears (how am I to survive in a world where it's dog eat dog?, etc.) to pander to the lowest and most banal of the voting populace, a group which has swollen in it's numbers and oddly enough, encompasses a broad spectrum of individuals, from the truly stupid, to the most highly "educated". What is stunning, is that the "higher" end of this spectrum is so incapable, or unwilling, to question how it is that they find themselves expressing solidarity with what can only be described as morons,... people who simply lack the ability, or the desire, to THINK and QUESTION. My theory, I believe, gains substantial credence when certain of the comments in this very thread are viewed. Those who post, herein, and profess their wisdom and intellect (and, we must consider,... supposedly, they were hired by Chevron, so some effort was expended toward insuring they weren't hiring an absolute dunce,... not always successfully, it must be noted) then, in the same breath, profess allegiance and support of what can only be described as the most corrupt, deceitful, and unethical administration (the self-proclaimed arbiter of All That Is Just And Fair,... Mr. Obama) most of us have ever witnessed,... seems incongruous. It is a sign of our times. Accredited, (supposedly) highly educated, credentialed fools. We can no longer look to what The World offers, as evidence of a person's intelligence or capacity for analytical thought, as that evidence, by it's mere association with The World, is tainted. Be that as it may,... we are left with a vast segment of the voting public, many of whom are "educated", but who remain,... simply too stupid to warrant our efforts to even consider their "arguments". It becomes, then, a simple matter of which side has the greatest numbers. Brothers and Sisters,... let us pray.

It's called idiocracy ... Do a search on definition. Sadly, I think it applies to both Trump and Clinton. Americans shouldn't have to pick between the least of two evils.

Pray for a speedy impeachment process on whoever wins and do your homework on VPs.

Folks, all this Trump versus Hillary is interesting but think about it. What percent of our population are idiots or depend on give-always for their livelihood or in many cases both? Those folks will all vote for Hillary no matter what she does or what crooked deals are exposed to the light of day. They'll probably blame it on Bush or simply refuse to acknowledge it. I predict a landslide win by Hillary. There are more idiots out there than you think.

"do you really buy into that BS that Trump is a raving fool", yes, yes I do. The think that Trump was the biggest blunder made by the Republican Party in my life time. This guy is dangerous. Look at his raving temper tantrums and half-baked proclamations that pass for policy. Look how Putin played the guy like a fiddle … either Trump has arranged massive payoffs for his company from the Russians under the table or he is a stone cold moron. I actually think it would be better for the country if the former were true, but I am convinced it’s the latter. To me this goes well beyond normal partisan politics, his guy is scary unstable. I suspect most of the Republican leadership agrees, not because they are corrupt or incompetent as suggested in a post below, but rather they have made the same observations as everyone else who has actually been watching. Some may well think Trump is “controllable” by the legislative branch (and “the army will ignore his orders until he calms down”), and therefore better than Hillary, but no one who has been paying any attention at all thinks he is a good idea.

@2rng, do you really buy into that BS that Trump is a raving fool that will mishandle the nuclear codes and end life on this planet? Sounds like the rhetoric from the looney left which I also heard Hillary utter several times already. Don't buy into the BS from the left, my friend. They are part of the New World Order set out to control the world and everyone's life. This election in November is the tipping point of radical change with no possibility of return.

@IJ9ZYCj-2rmc, Just face it, Liberal democrats who want/need/feel they can get more handouts from the hard-working tax-payers will vote for Hillary. It's very simple. She will get the parasite vote regardless of her lack of trustworthiness. There are those who pull the wagon and there are those who try to always get a free ride. The free riders will invariably vote democrat. They are always playing the victim, like the rest of the world owes them something, or that they can simply gain something from others and do less and contribute less. It's pathetic. Not that every democrat falls into that category, but too high of a percentage of them do. I will not have anything to do with that, even if It means I have to vote for horses-a-- Trump. I believe in paying your way through life. Nothing's free. No other person OWES anyone a living.

@IJ9ZYCj-2rng, That could be said of Hillary as well, and she has proven that she cannot be trusted. There is a chance that you cannot trust Trump. He is a loose cannon, sure. You DEFINITELY cannot trust Hillary. I prefer the lesser of two evils. I do not believe Trump would go against a Congressional consensus. Hillary will do what she wants, when she wants, whether you like it or not. She makes ("meaning of is is") Bill seem like a saint.

"Why do you think Trump scares the hell out of both establishment sides of power. Answer:" He is a raving nut job who just might press the button during one of his temper tantrums ending life on the planet .... For starters!

@IJ9ZYCj-2ypb, WIth your random anonymous post with no reference, No one knows your point, which post it was in, or gives a rats A$$, and even less that you have anything worthwhile to say.......