Natural many managers refuse to admit it.
But for those who really care, come have a chat with the engineers. Those who have spoken out had been ISPed. Us remaining have a lot to tell but we never talk about it.
So Vice Presidents, Directors and managers if you really want to know the difficulties the engineers have to face just to perform simple tasks...please demonstrate your sincerity that you want to understand the issues and help us, come meet us and we will tell all.