I see a lot of dumbasses posting here.
There is no better education to prepare you for the real world than engineering.
You're taught to think logically and solve problems - not restricted to the domain of your specialty.
For smart people - these skills transfers beyond just a job at Intel or any engineering firm.
I'm starting to think that the whiners here are just not real engineers. Just glorified robots collecting a paycheck.
Vote Gary Johnson. Fiscal conservative and social liberal. Go to his web site and check him out.
The paradox of voting keeps me at home.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_voting
caliarofnia vote is imrpotant this aitme becausw we don'at awant it ato be a swing astate...no good deed if alll demoacarp or reapbuican adominataed....i onaly care about the llocal elections.
Libertarian is the only rational political choice.
In an irrational world I'll abstain from voting (california resident here so my vote is worth epsilon)
nogotht nigght...i can't typeanymorea....too much too drinak.....
ok...brub... I got ta ask.. What do yoa think of donald trump? I think he's a dick.but I don't like hiallary anymore...still I think i'll vote for some libertarian dude this time....
H1b's are fine if they have the skills.
What is not fine is the URM policy. It goes against meritocracy and seeds resentment amongst the rank and file.
sorry to hear that....burb... I hated going to korea....burb...there's this one company there that you enter they take use to take away your passport, lol and not give it back to you until your team was done....
You assume a lot.
I'm in Asia at the moment feeling bored at an airport this afternoon.
ok. op. I'll give you credit for this board being entertaining....burb....excuse me.... so what's you're opinion on h1-b's.....Me? I don't think they are the issue...burb... if you're good.
I saw the writing on the wall years ago.
I still have many friends at Intel and this board, you must admit, is pure entertainment.
OP, don't you have a family to go attend? I admit that my wife is away visiting my inlaws and I didn't want to go, and I like my time to myself getting drunk (Afterall, I sort of need to). But why are you still here?
OP, if you have long left intel, why are you still hanging on this board, late at night, sober? I mean, don't you have anything better to do, now that intel is behind you?
OP, speaking of egos, why do you say you are a PE when you are not? You think that makes you more credible? Just curious. Don't think as a regular engineer, you wouldn't be taken as seriously?
How does one 'prove' they are an engineer on an anonymous board?
Spouting off a resume doesn't really work.
-wyx, now you have a reading comprehension problem...
So you're not an an engineer, and you are illiterate. I'm drunk. It seems like my mental capacity being drunk still exceeds yours being sober.
And we can be here all night if you want :)
-wyx, I think he's talking about you....lol...
-mcp
He's the best-est engineer with a firm grasp on the concept of trolling.
Lol, what ego? Have you noticed I don't care what others make? Seems to me, you care a lot about what others make... Sounds to me that only happens when you haven't gotten there yet....Again, clearly not a PE or engineer for that matter.
I don't need too. You wouldn't understand anyway :)
Fragile ego is my guess.
Tell us more about your superior engineering skills. Did you work on the flux capacitor?
-mcp. I'm drunk :) And I'm testing myself how good my skills are even when I'm drunk..that is, to put people full of sh1t in their place.
No, I just enjoy proving you're full of sh!t...
Why? Because I can't stand people full of sh!t. And so, I go out of my way to prove people are full of sh!t and put them in their place. At work, even outside of work... Come to think of it, maybe that's why I'm an engineer afterall, not you...
Typical bullshit that happens in corporate america. You're part of the problem, not the solution. But this has been fun. I'm glad I'm still good at this skill.
Why in the world did you spend so much time feeding this one troll is something that I probably will never understand.
A friend of mine used to refer to two kinds of PEs at Intel. The real PEs and the micro-PEs. This has been enlightening - lol.
Thanks for the lols.
You sure do like hearing yourself talk!
Well, first of all OP. You need to know how to read. I didn't say my total comp was $200k. I said base salary. But that's beside the point.
Second, I don't need to ask around. I know.
Third, I definitely don't need that advice from you, who clearly is not a Principal Engineer, and I even question if you are even an engineer, or working for another employer. It sounds like you are still an an intel grunt and/or maybe you are still a grunt but working elsewhere. Thus far, you have not demonstrated any breath or depth of knowledge that would lead me believe you have the technical skills, knowledge, ability beyond an entry level engineer. Namely, because some subtle questions I dropped or hinted at, which were deliberately, you just let it pass without commenting or correcting, which any self-respecting engineer would have. You keep focusing on the holy grail of Intel Principal Engineer. When reality, outside of intel no one really has a a "principal/senior principal" level, especially at startups....Those would be ficticious titles made up to appease title happy people, typically from big companies.
Lastly, you suck at math, or at least financial math. You cannot count stock appreciation in part with compensation package. Because you have no control of stock apprecation at the time your compensation was granted, so you cannot say "your compensation package is $300k/year, when $100k/year happens to be from previous stock grants that simply has appreciated". Let's put it to you this way, would the same employer grant you the same VALUE as they previously granted you, or would they grant you the same number of shares they previously granted you?
Sounds like a list of skills not related to Intel's core business.
PE's at Intel should pull in 300K TCOMP.
You should ask around.
Also, if you really were an engineer, how can you conclude I was a networking engineer from software, eCommerce, hardware, embedded, another things that I have done... Hint: you won't be able to figure it out, because I've worn many hats..That's why people like me. I can work all up and down the stack, unlike most of you.
No, I'm just calling you out being full of sh!t. But I didn't really need to do that. You did a pretty good job demonstrating yourself once I got the ball rolling...lol...Hence why I would never make it in marketing/sales. I can't sweet talk once I know you're a liar.
You sound like a software / networking engineer trying to make it at a microprocessor/semiconductor firm. No wonder you are underpaid...
It only took me about 30 posts this time to prove people who post here aren't principal engineers, or for that matter, engineers at all. I figure, if I start carrying on a conversation with them, they usually give clues that they really don't know what they are talking about...And then from that point on, it just starts to unravel. It's actually a pretty good skill to have, as an principal engineer. If you want to get things done, sometimes you need to hear what others say, and if you don't like it, you need to prove what a bad idea or how terrible it is. And sometimes, the easiest way to prove that, is to prove the person you're talking with is lying and full of sh!t and doesn't really know what they are doing, or say things that really aren't true or above their pay grade.. You sometimes need to call them out for their bluff and put them right back within their pay grade in order to make progress on the greater agenda. Afterall, that's what I'm paid for often...To put bullsh!tters like you OP in your place.
no way man.. there's lots of principal engineers, and most of them feel the same way. If you were really a principal engineer, you would know that. Again, proving my previous post. I enjoy much more proving you're full of sh1t!
You've posted enough info to ID yourself within Intel. Great job!
I love how the OP posts about how's he's a Principal Engineer, and now has since backed off from that claim, after all the proof that demonstrates he knows nothing about what goes on at the higher levels, that would be obvious if he really was one... Just goes to show, those cheerleaders of engineering are full of sh!t and simply haven't reached the levels yet such that they see what others are seeing.
In matter of fact, comparing to a lot of other companies, Intel actually has pretty decent integrity. That is one major redeeming factor I find about it. No where near the shennagians as the other smaller startup companies that were shipping blank cd's, flat out lying, etc...those great opportunities "elsewhere" you claim are better...
...This is why I find it so surprising that whenever there is a "new IPO" company, so many people (mom an pop retail investors) jump at the IPO shares...
1) The new company restricts shares on the free market and there's typically 120 lockup window to prevent insiders from selling. That means that there is a unusually low volume of shares floating on the free market, to prices will be high
2) You have no idea of the business prospects now trading as a public company
3)After the 120 lockup window, the insiders will be rushing to sell as much as they can...
-udw. Actually, I spent my time at a few places. Pre-ipo (the stock was great. $10 ISO grants IPOed at $175/share..Networking company), Pre-ipo software company (bought out at $186million), and bigger companies where I parked when were were acquired.
I assure you. This isn't just intel, it happens everywhere. Particularly at startups, when you're trying to go public or get acquired.
There was another company, where we were trying to demonstrate B2B eCommerce with trading systems to a customer. There was a guy in a server room literally copying the file from the source system to the destination system's file system, when not a single line of code had been written to handle the actual e-transaction.
It sounds like you've spent 20 years at Intel.
Good grief!
There are better places to work.
I mean, my favorite time I spent one time at a company ( I won't name) was a company that sold a software product to a very large customer, with not a single line of code written for it. The company shipped a blank CD to the customer, counting on the fact that they won't do anything with the software for 2 months. And then when they tried to do something with the software, the response would be "oops, we we sent you a bad CD. Here's a good CD with the software" (fresh cut on to the CD).....
-nid. lol, I've been doing this for 20 years, so I guarantee I am more fit to do this than you probably are...
I'm just telling it how it is. And it's not just intel. I've been at other companies, and it happens pretty much at every company. If you deny it occurs, it just proves you're not at a high enough level to see it... Chances are, you're a lower level grunt that works on a tiny module, insulated for all the other things that get the bigger project to work. Frankly, it doesn't really matter if you succeed or fail because as part of a good engineering team, there's plenty of redundancy in staff such that if you by chance fail to deliver what you promised you can deliver, there is at least one other individual that can pick up where you left off. Before, that redundancy was only a fellow coworker. Now, that redundancy can mean anything from an offshore team, or literally another team doing the exact same thing as you are, even though it makes no sense to do that.
This happens at any company. Intel, Broadcom, Qualcomm, Google, Facebook,etc... Sales/marketing has very little accountability in what gets delivered. And when they make the sales, what they told the customer already exists is exactly what you will be spending lots of long hours over the next few months building, even if you have no idea what you will build will actually work.