http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/technology/inside-amazon-wrestling-big-ideas-in-a-bruising-workplace.html?_r=0
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Word on the street is you will all be working for Amazon shortly so you better get use to it. The bulls-eye is going to be replace by the Amazon logo shortly...
GREAT original post. The rest of the - I know you are but what am I: Not so much. Especially the goof ball that tries to stir up nonsense, is rebutted and then throws out non sequiturs.
Walmart eats both their lunches and then smokes a cigarette .
181810: Just how is Amazon eating Target's lunch exactly? It has lots of sales but has Amazon EVER had an annualized profit - meaning does it make money? NO it has not? Does target? Every year and it has BILLIONS of dollars in cash? How much CASH does Amazon have? Well, it has debt.... Ok, what type of Assets does Amazon have, it must have Billions from eating Target's lunch. It must own property, ton's of equity outside of it's current significantly overvalued stock? No it has nearly zero - NONE. Ok, Well Target, who's lunch apparently is being gobbled up by Amazon must be in far worse shape, right? NO it has Billions of dollars in Assets, it owns literally all of the real estate it's building sit on. Hmmm..... So right now those evil shareholders and wall street fat cats love it, but they used to love Enron, AOL Time Warner, Worldcom etc.
So let me get this, you think tgt is going to let you keep working in Disneyland, while Amazon is eating their lunch? You might as well f* youselves right now, don't even wait until tomorrow.
The troll is so transparent with his horrible grammar and syntax. Troll on troller! Go back to world of warcraft. You have no clue about TGT or Amazon dip shit!
Anonymous181672: Been there done that, came from AMZN. Don't let reality get in the way of your fantasy. AMZN's 401K match will only give a maximum of 2% of your annual salary. Unless you are a Sr. exec getting TONS of stock options your chances of having $4MM in your 401k at AMZN are not possible at all. As far as Target's "culture going there." The two companies couldn't be more different. AMZN's stock is up a ton, but unless you've purchase a ton of it as a mid level employee it has no direct benefit to you. A day at target is like going to Disneyland compared to AMZN. The pressure at AMZN was absolutely horrible.
Anonymous181672: heck why stop there, he should have bought a winning powerball ticket or been a professional athlete or been born into a wealthy family. After 26 years with Target I'd bet he/she is just fine in the 401k dept.
181638, you are missing the point. If you had been working at amazon for the last 10 years you would already have your $4M. Target's culture is going there, you lost out already. Good luck!
Anonymous181548: Skip leadership, I'd accept that for $550 a share price. 26 years with the company, $550 a share would put my 401K balance at over $4,000,000: Done! But, that's not what's being discussed here genius. What is being discussed is that the horrible work conditions at TGT are nearly as bad as they are at Amazon.
181004, if you don't think top leadership at Target would accept that culture and some of the negatives about it, for a $550+ stock price you are crazy.
nice reality check
Anonymous181094: really????!!!! That's your takeaway from that article and the subsequent comments. Working conditions at Target are not NEARLY as bad as what's reported of Amazon's culture. Skip all the "c-suite" and share holder BS troll. Your rhetoric is tired.
If you think Tgt is not going same direction, think again. At least at amazon, if you adhere they succeed and you do very well financially also. At tgt it will only be in vain, enriching c-suite and shareholders, till they fold.
Thanks! Sometimes it takes seeing how bad someone else has it to appreciate things.
Sounds like "Animal Farm", "Brave New World", and "1984" all rolled into one.
Sounds like the ultimate employer's paradise: Make 24/7 availability the standard, plan to "cull" the ones who could only do 23/7 each year, then set colleagues to spying and reporting on each other. Give each person too much to do and encourage them to shame themselves when they can't do it all with a high level of excellence. Who cares how many broken people this creates? There are plenty more where they came from.
Lord, that sounds like an absolutely horrible place to work. It's corporate slavery and human abuse all dressed up in meaningless achievement bromides designed to "motivate"--but, really, it's brainwashing. Brainwashing in service to nothing more, in the end, than lining Jeff Bezos' pockets and servicing his "vision."
Amazon is not a trauma unit. They are not saving lives of people in peril. They are not curing cancer. To cry in meetings and be harassed after midnight all in the service of "selling toilet paper at the push of a bathroom button" is absolutely ridiculous, if you really think about it.
As far as annual social Darwinism is concerned, just wait, human resources person, until those fangs are turned on you. See how proud of and bought into the culture you are then.
These policies will come back to bite Bezos, where it counts -- in his wallet. These policies are not what made Amazon the world's most valuable company. Bezos truly is a marketing genius, and the Kindle and Kindle apps are a boon for readers and authors, but eventually all companies lose. Eventually, the newer kid on the block with a brighter idea takes over. And Bezos has it wrong: hate-fueled policies do not inspire loyalty and trust; they inspire hate and create ill health in the workers. And eventually, those two intangibles become tangible, hitting the management where it hurts -- the bottom line. I've just lost a whole batton of respect for Bezos over this matter. And I'm not alone in this.
After reading this article, I want to vomit from sheer empathic anxiety. It's "mean girls" amped to "mean geeks gone manic." It's probably just a question of time before "going postal" gets revamped to "going amazon" when some disgruntled former "Amazonian" girds up in black commando gear & gets an AK-47.
This kind of workplace is not new. Compare & contrast: sweatshops in the U.S. & beyond. This kind of workplace is what made unions necessary. The 40-hour workweek that included weekends was negotiated between unions & management to prevent the kind of overwork that killed people before their time. Don't argue that Amazonians aren't being crushed in metal-presses as were their forebears, because the level of stress Amazonians are under is way beyond what's healthy & reasonable for human bodies to stand.
Friends, Amazon's culture described herein is nothing short of tyrannical oligarchy. Of course the company is secretive--only where there is transparency can there be justice.
That being ranted, I admit it---I use Amazon's services frequently. But jeez, can't there be middle ground between pedal-to-the-metal employee abuse & a mentally healthy workplace? Americans have accomplished a LOT in the 40-hour week. And if you do like your weekend, thank a union.