It's easy to do a search on any company or product or any type of situation. If a student googled EDMC or argosy they would get all kinds of negative information. If they did a simple search they would never go to school here. Either they are stupid or looking for a stipend or both. But this is who we target because they are easy prey. How does this predatory action not get the full weight of the federal government come down on them. Corruption from top to bottom. Taxpayers need to band together and not stop until this industry is cleaned up or shut down. And everyone responsible put behind bars doing hard time for the lives ruined.
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842.That anti-spin never occurred to me. Sounds like Hardman at his best. What a nut!
@214, 215. Grad rates were fradulent from 2003! Grad rates are your bellwether if you run a school. This shit needs to be hammered home. No matter what their defense to exsist may be, stats tell it all. In any business you don't produce, you bring nothing to the table, nothing personal---you're gone. Why are these f***ers sacrosanct?
http://web.archive.org/web/20041112105523/http://www.artinstitutes.edu/yourfuture_careerstats.asp
The grad rates were actually provided long ago. They were just fraudulent. Here is proof of their falsified placement rates, back in 2003.
http://web.archive.org/web/20041112105523/http://www.artinstitutes.edu/yourfuture_careerstats.asp
- You are so right. One minority graduate from one of these schools is like an exponential spider's web for others to be recruited. But from what we have seen their grad rates are ridiculously low. The throw away students generally take it on the chin and are too humiliated to even talk about their experience. It's like people who are conned out of something, they don't let the world know. But the one person that graduates--and good for them-the con school makes them the poster boy for everything that's right about the school. You can't habe a 3% grad rate in some instances and claim legitimacy.
That's right 085 but who goes to college thinking they are going to be exploited and then finding themselves asking for reimbursement after THAT fact.
I graduated with honors and actually wanted a career. Who the f*** goes to college thinking they will be exploited and reimbursed after the fact? That makes no sense.
You do understand that many of us enrolled prior to things like Yelp existing and before Google was what it is today? We were also shown falsified placement rates of over 90%. We are led to trust the educational system from an early age. Stop victim blaming. This for-profit scam is decades old at this point.
The CEO of Goldman Sachs is above the law.
@974. Yes, the need, want, desire and to a lesser degree greed (how greedy can you be on a miserable stipend. That's a relatve thing anyway), makes everyone a target for
exploitation and you don't even know that from the start. Not until recently were the grad rates published anyhow. So you buy into (literally) the notion that anyone who
doesn't have a college education is
somehow not qualified to have a
successful life. So if you want to be in the small minority of grads from one of these schools with a lifetime of debt -enough said, I'm preaching to the choir.
Unfortunately its the students pride that bring them in too. If you tell a student they're not good enough they're going to try even harder to get in/get through.
The student's need to succeed ultimately leads to their financial failure.
@940. Not that simple. Many very astute and highly educated people with great life experience get caught up in frauds. You have to shut down the money trough by creating minimal academic standards. If they don't meet them, close them down. South U in Tampa, Fl 3% graduation rate in HRS, what purpose do they serve except as a jobs program for the school functionaries. Unless you are a total parnoid basket case in this life you as a consumer are vulnerable to bad people. With that said, I can tell you that in my experience that ironically the ones who are most paranoid are the folks that get
screwed the worst. We all know that corporate America screws customers all the time for billions and most people let it go. Not worth the time or effort and they know this. When caught pay fine, don't admit guilt and on to next scheme. Sound familiar?