Any concerns on Duvernay sales
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CNRL will probably only want the field employees anyway, so if you work in Calgary I'd be more concerned with scrubbing the resume then the work culture in CNRL. If you haven't been told you are moving, then you will not be moving
Oh, but remember - they’re NOT a sweatshop. Because them making that statement over and over again in the townhall was not a red flag at all.
Remember, they have FUN in their mission statement.
Sounds like you’re ready to obey your new CNRL masters. Congrats, don’t get too sweaty.
Yes, don't let reality sink in at all to influence your decision, lol. Hybrid is gone and at some places never was. Get over it. Employers expect you to actually work if you expect to get paid. How horrifying.
There are still a ton of energy or energy related companies in Calgary that have hybrid schedules. Don’t let the narrative of “no one allows hybrid anymore” influence how you evaluate the CNRL offers
Suggested chatgbt prompt:
“In Alberta if an employer is claiming a terminated employee failed to mitigate because the buyer offered the employee a substantially similiar job offer that was refused, is there a difference between the concept of “substantially similiar” vs “reasonably the same? Do both concepts need to be met in order for the employer to successfully withhold severance?”
The best advice is to talk to your own lawyer to get guidance specific to you.
If you want to do some of your own research in meantime, go to Canlii.org, you can search Canadian case law there for free similiar to google. Or, go ask chat gbt some questions. It’s not a substitute for actual legal advice (get that!), but can be useful for simple questions as it can search and summarize many things.
Anyone able to comment on lawyers perspective of substantially similar offer of employment? Specifically thought the no hybrid and no compressed work week might mean the CNRL offers aren’t similar enough…?
You HR dorks think way too highly of yourselves. None of you are important.
Yes, absolutely RM is the sole reason why they sold off the oil sands and Duvernay assets lol
I echo the HR and Legal comment and add to them Supply Chain
They have led to this outcome. Value eroded form our BU. I have an example where a very little educated admin assistant moved to HR and then the power hungry was only focused on RM social agenda. It was a disaster. She poisoned the whole HR culture within CBU specially when the current weak HR leader was selected. He was a pawn and ki-led the business. I would imagine the business without these people now, we would have been at 300K BBL/day easily from the Duverney.
Legal is knows at CBU to be the farm out Teflon shoulder capital of Chevron. They only focused on creating legal challenges for CVX so they stay employed and they benefit the external law firms who su-ked us dry knowing how useless our legal team is only to hide behind these firms when we lose which was the case non stop. We ended up fighting with partners, employees, government agencies and name it. And we lost the majority of these fights but we lined up the pockets of the external law firms all the way to the bank. The funny thing, every time after we lose, then convince the management that it would have been worse ...lol .Just for a tiny business unit.
Finally supply chain was he turtle who just feed family and friends. We paid an arm and a leg for simple services because they added all kinds of non sense.
I hope we get better management from CNRL who can help us to operate and make oil.
They do not use digital tools much. So funny how he mentioned that it's impossible to collaborate via Ms Teams because you can't look at the printed map over screen! Well, goodbye power point slides or apps and dashboards! Bring in your highlighters and post-it notes!
The key thing per their own words on the FAQ is “substantially similar offer”.
Consult a lawyer if you really don’t want to go over there. The differences in work schedule and flexibility between the companies is HUGE and they tried sweeping it under the rug at that townhall. Depending on your circumstances, the schedule and flexibility impacts may allow you to refuse the offer and still get severance. Worth getting the proper advice to your specific situation.
5 days a week in the office? That's outrageous! Who did they think they are?
If CVX is retaining Liard then maybe there is hope we may see Kitimat LNG rise again?
Exploration work will be relocated to Houston except for a couple people, just like Brazil did.
It sounds like CNRL will be taking almost everyone that is working in Alberta (office or field staff) that is currently working on the Duvernay or AOSP assets. So folks in those teams likely won't see a severance package. Uncertainty remains about what will happen to the support staff that are not directly linked solely to the Duvernay or AOSP assets as well as small exploration team.
So there are no severance packages on the table? CNRL absorbing pretty much everyone?
HR and Legal have erroneously eroded the asset
It was given for free. The AOSP assets were worht more than 6.5 Billion$ and CVX decided to sell at all.cost to get rid of a failing BU
Legal fought with our partners. The worst Legal team in corporate History. They follow external lawyers advice go just jeep fighting for non sense damaging the compnay name, brand, financial resources and tbey end up losing. It can not be any worse.
HR have lost thw talent that made the difference. They were too occupied with RM toxic agenda and intoxicated the company beyond repair.
I doubt CNRL will keep any of these two disastrous functions unless they are pushed hard by CVX.
No one ever imagined how HR and Legal can destroy rhe value of an oil major that bad.
I hear CNRL pays better so the concern would be too many people retiring early with all that cash.
You could hear the tension in the townhall this morning when they announced CNRL requires 5 days in office. Not sure how they’re going to force people over without getting a ton of constructive dismissal claims.