Thread regarding Palo Alto Networks Inc. layoffs

I work on a cloud-based product and this is not new. Every single person who hired me for the job is gone. I’ll just check Slack or email and the employee directory and they are no longer here. No announcement, no nothing. We put up with it as long as the stock was going up. Now what are we going to? Complain about it and do nothing.

Yes! PAN is extreme. Certainly all employers do some of this, but PAN is extremely arrogant and calculating & do believe they are above the law at every turn.

The Palo Alto Networks Way is to 🎯 :

1. High Achievers People who have made the company millions in client purchases. "....you over achieved. Well done. Now your next quota is excessively inflated with abusive intent so you get the he-l out and never expect us to pay you above the bare minimum no matter how much money you make us" [PS -- that is called exclusion by changing the rules for targeted people]
2. Attrition through selective bullying. The company gives managers full discretion to just fire anyone they don't like. Period. This is how they can claim that they are ALWAYS HIRING AND NEVER HAVE LAYOFFS AND KEEP AGES LOW via selectively screening candidates who are below 35 ( only when a leader hasn't already chosen a friend to bring over from their last company). ITS A REVOLVING DOOR OF FABRICATED ATTRITION.

Its an obvious open secret that most of us just pretend it's not going on. But I always laugh at the sales leader boards when I see a big fish overachieving, as we all know they will be pushed out with Quota Bullying within 18 mos max.

If you believe this is limited to PANW, then I want to sell you something.....

This is systemic in all of tech. It is EXTREME @ PANW. Certainly. Palo takes it to a whole new level of corporate greed and down with the people. There is ZERO HR function. Zero. Maybe at other organizations they have some escalation process. Some interventions. (Although C Suite disregard for the people is the same across all tech). Palo has ZERO. In fact, if you protest in any way, you are blacklisted and your career at Palo is over. Period.

I dare you to challenge me with an example. I actually BEG you to challenge me with an example to prove that Palo does not throw out anyone who speaks up. Please. I'd love to know.

W-O-W!

That's exactly what happened to 2-3 people in our division.
Good to know the so-called "coaching" is BS.

Also what is the point of "human" resources when all they do is push GO on pushing employees out. Where is HR to evaluate each situation and determine if it is legitimate or a poor manager? How do they decipher between legit management of employees vs poor leadership?

Pretty pathetic. Id understand if we were struggling financially. But we are supposedly thriving. Therefore, this is just imbalanced bullying.

No ONE talks about the INSANE Process.

It is the following (I'm an ex manager)

1. HR tells you that you must place them on a very loose "coaching plan"

2. If they don't "leave on their own*....you up the ante and try to encourage they leave

3. If they still don't leave, then HR allows you to

+++Offer a package (varies by group & budget) for them to agree to a "posterity" MUTUAL SEPARATION

• OR-------------

AGREE TO MORE COACHING

You can presume that 89.9% agree to the MUTUAL SEPARATION

The rest fall into the 'Special Ops' Team to be dealt with

IF the targeted employee is STILL A PROBLEM

PANW targets the manager and throws the manager under the 🚌

Essentially...no HR oversight.

KNOW YOUR RIGHTS 👍 ⚖️👮
(...just b/c Palo and other companies still sneak in language to scare you from talking, it is not legal or enforceable)

• Feb. 23, 2023 National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) ruling, employers can’t use severance agreements to silence laid-off or furloughed employees.

• Requiring a laid-off employee to sign a nondisclosure and nondisparagement agreement [This Includes Mutual Separation Agreements] as a condition of receiving severance benefits Violates the Employee’s Rights under the NLRA

It is game is over for that fat cat C suite.

Game Over! Finally they are seen for who they really are!

Have you checked under the lampshades?

Wow. What a week for Palo! Guess our dysfunction is now no longer just our own very little secret!

Who is advising leadership? The erratic nature of all of this is feels like they are just playing with liability like Russian Roulette. I don't understand the purpose of having ceremonial positions like Chief People Officer when there appears to be no guardrails. Little to no HR oversight. It's as if we are gambling. We are the undisputed leader (or one of 2) at what we do. Why does it appear that we are risking everything based on extremely poor employee relations?