I'm hearing rumors about Director level being looked at. Anyone else hear anything?
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My Director was rif'd in 2023...so rif of Directors is not new.
I was a Director RIF'd in 2021.
My Director retired. They haven't posted her position and migrated the team under another director. That tells me all I need to know. On the frontlines, we are taking on more and more new business yet not hiring any staff. I have my jumppack on and one foot at the door at this point.
“I really wish they would ask their long term associates about pain points with all these changes.” - you tell McKinsey and McKinsey will fluff it up and tell management … then you are heard
Automation would be great if there were still methods to reach someone for help. So many providers need help and are grasping at straws for help, coming to staff that cannot help them and we have no where to direct them. Availity is not the catch all for provider issues...I really wish they would ask their long term associates about pain points with all these changes. Our providers and members are suffering and if more of us are gone in the next 2 months... :(
No one is really safe. Even if you weren't the name or two your manager submitted, a leader two tiers above them could rif the whole group anyway. It's a 12% cut. Enterprise wide. We're outsourcing much of the work that isn't automated to carelon global. And we're automating anything possible. The US workforce is the most expensive. They'll keep cutting it until the pendulum swings back when contracts are lost because the quality is so bad. My guess is that if you can survive a couple bumpy years, we'll swing back to a more person based touch and have to rebuild the workforce.
@1hzf+1tyYey8n what are 1s, 2s, etc?
They should go after 1s, then 2s, and so on.
It would make sense that certain levels of leadership are the focus for the next few rounds. They’ve cut frontline so much they can’t afford to get rid of them anymore. It would be like squeezing blood out of a rock at this point.
I keep looking for the tv cameras because this can’t be real. Is this a really bad joke or is GB this out of
touch with local HP? East Region is a sinking ship. Executive Leadership is a misnomer. Leadership? where? These people are destroying us. They are ki-ling people , rewarding years of service and high performance with layoffs or demotions and gutting the staff doing the actual work. Meanwhile the cheerful updates continue while they are automating the data and claims into a scrambled mess no one can fix. Innovation? I think not because quality is going backwards. service is only when something on fire and communication is nonexistent. self important hypocrites are making decisions that are destroying this company - run run run.. They are snide little impotent beings that get off hurting ppl. They do not care . You do not matter . You will be
scapegoated snd abused if you speak the truth or try to improve processes.
You are not safe. I used to love this company. Why are they doing this?
My Director was rif'd in October 2023. Nobody is apparently safe.
I was a director who was part of Sept/Oct 2023 RIF...
Not sure what is meant by "now"
I have seen 3 Director's be Riffed in the last 8 months. There are going to be Directors and Staff VP's let go on 8/8.
The 8/8 RIF is applying to everyone.
At this point it does not look like anyone is safe regardless of your title. The best thing we can all do for our selves now is to have a plan for either way it goes. Hang in there, this too will pass. Best of luck to all.
They should be targeting top-heavy leadership well above the Director level. Continuing to target frontline staff borders on irresponsible and certainly isn't the best decision for shareholders. They could easily lose15 SVPs and not feel a thing, other than people no longer incessantly talking in meetings but not actually saying anything. Ahhh, but much like Congress the decisions they make never apply to themselves.
Wow ! Wouldn’t be surprised. What a mess! Ever since Carelon came in everything has gone down hill.
I remember that reorg! In addition to cutting out layers, managers needed a minimum of 7 direct reports. I think this one during the JS days. So directors and both managers and staff VPs were impacted, both RIFs and reorganized to be individual contributors
Several CEO’s ago, they restructured so there were 7 layers or less from associate to CEO. A lot of directors and VP’s were eliminated. Your never safe, no matter your position
Can you please explain? As in retitled positions, or minimum FTEs on teams, or something else?