Thread regarding Palo Alto Networks Inc. layoffs

Not a test. Don't ignore.

But seriously this is a perpetual problem. Few speak up because they know this post is true and the ones who remain just want to keep their jobs.

just a test please ignore

And another one bites the dust....

People of a certain age are dropping like flies. Interesting how these posts were foreshadowing for how PANW is managing our targeted people to keep the average age down (while obviously recruiting younger people).

How is this legal? Why are they able to get away with this? They seem to not care at all, as if they are above the law.

Hmm 🤔🤔🤔

I guess the majority of people I've noticed quietly exit are about 40 & above. I believe.

Interesting

https://www.nlrb.gov/news-outreach/news-story/board-rules-that-employers-may-not-offer-severance-agreements-requiring

FYI. PANW is asking people to sign away their rights, but it is not enforceable. In fact, even then asking you to sign it is against the law.

The American Way!

Well, at least the Crowd strike situation has given our stock a boost. If these "older employees" proactively engaged in ESPP, then they should get a nice cushion upon departure.

Fortunately, No "bad egg" manager can ever take away an employees ability to buy into ESPP!

How did I never know about this site? I did my weekly social media search for PANW news and read this tweet.

https://x.com/TheLayoffBot/status/1811665596192292934

Glad to know this site exists. I'll bookmark it! Stay strong, Y'all.

I trust all of these posts are from my associates in America. I don't believe such practice is allowed where I reside in EMEA.
Sending good wishes to my friends in US during these stressful times.

I have no skin in the game here. I'm not "over 40" and am in a group that is doing fine and actually needs to grow.

However....WTF?????? 😮!!!!!!

This all sounds so illegal. I just asked my employment attorney brother-in-law and he told me that all of this sounds like a clear cut Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) Violation.His words"Tell your coworkers to go directly to their local EEOC ⚖️ office and file a case immediately". 👩‍⚖️

So please pass this along ...thank you. And good luck to any of you who may be facing this unfortunate "Corporate America Bullying" or whatever this is. It's just wrong.

We have been challenged in some groups. I believe in the long run our solutions will prevail beyond our current sales challenge's. Unfortunately, the company operates focusing on quarterly/annual performance, despite our sales cycle/product offering being a much longer cycle. I wish we could just be honest and accept that we have a long sales cycle instead of targeting employees. And if we have to find cuts, why not do them on merit and not give inexperienced managers absolute "power". You don't need to "like" all of your employees. Your employees have the same rights to have their job as you, the manager does. Everyone deserves to be managed "objectively" based on true work responsibilities, not via a popularity contest. Why is Human Resources "looking the other way" when it comes to ensuring managers are fair and equitable? It's as if HR doesn't even exist.

On my team, there is a person our manager is pushing out. This manager has never tried to hide the fact that they just simply didn't like my peer from day one. In fact, I know the day is coming soon as they have openly told all of us who is taking over this person's territory. I did wonder how/if HR would allow this manager to do anything considering the person is the oldest on our team. The person taking over territory is the youngest. It just all smells so bad
But as the person on another comment stated...it's a well known secret that managers have a little budget they can use to pretty much do whatever they want. Even if it violates employment laws.
You'd think HR would have rules to guide the manager. I am very uncomfortable as I watch this playout

The "avoidance" of reported layoffs breeds bad behavior by mamay managers. I don't not believe they properly train managers or the HR contacts about they key questions not ask before allowing a manager to do whatever they want to an employee

It's even worse that what this states....

I am a manager. And I have been struggling with this information. I was at a training session with other managers and I overhead a few sales related managers sharing stories about what they are able to get away with to get rid of anyone they don't like without any reason. They have a process...they know what they can sneak in via a small budget to get rid of people without getting signatures/approvals from senior leadership. I really want to speak up, but I am so very afraid of retaliation if I report this.

You can get a severance? In my department, they make you miserable enough that you’ll just quit. Lousy compensation and RSUs and limited promotions. Win/win for them - you leave and they pay nothing.