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Timeline for Non compliance for FOW

Does anybody here know what’s the exact timeline for non compliance ? Assuming all of the below is considered non compliance

  1. Not complying to anchor days
  2. Not complying min 8 hours on anchor day and the 3rd day of your choice.
  3. Not showing up at all .

When are they going to actually start firing people? Are there any warnings ?
At this point , all the things HR said seem like empty threats. I was complying until now but so many people don’t comply. They can’t fire everyone right ? Or can they 🤔. I am confused because I really would like to leave a little early to beat the traffic. I really can’t focus after 4 pm and just watching the clock till 5.

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@4abd+1tfO7prF , do you know when Aetna started this policy ? Hearing so many companies in and around Hartford area join this bandwagon all together.

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Post ID: @4kzu+1tfO7prF

I expect there will be warnings first for those who are blatantly not following the policy. Then if nothing changes, those people will start getting fired.
I guess it could be worse though. My wife works at Aetna and they are requiring people be on the office Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday with no flexibility. And they are starting to discipline people who don’t comply. While it still su-ks, at least we have a tiny bit of flexibility in the third day.

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Post ID: @4abd+1tfO7prF

My org’s managing director recently told us that the company’s really just looking for consistency over time, in the “spirit of the policy.”

Allegedly, the only people who should have been terminated at this point were “egregiously non compliant” meaning haven’t been in at all since they were asked to come in, and supposedly asked several times thereafter to start coming in, but didn’t.

It was also mentioned a few times in this townhall that the language around “full 8 hour days” has been “softened.”

If you’re generally making your 3 days, and they generally consist of Tuesday and Wednesday, and they’re generally a fullish day, there shouldn’t be anything to worry about.

Obviously we’d all rather not have any sort of quota or mandate to be in office at all, but at least things don’t seem as Draconian as they did at first.

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Post ID: @1zvh+1tfO7prF

I was averaging 1.5 days a week. Well below previous policy of more than 50% and definitely less than FOW. I had nothing to say but “no I wasn’t coming in because I was hired as a remote worker before the pandemic and Cigna is breaking its agreement with me”. I signed off on PIP and will be complying from here on in. But I am spending lots of time job hunting now. Don’t want to get fired but don’t want to stay either.

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Post ID: @rku+1tfO7prF

@qjz+1tfO7prF How much non compliant were you? Did you not come at all ? How many hours did you generally put in office ?

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Post ID: @icp+1tfO7prF

@eqp+1tfO7prF Do you know this person ? Can you check with them? If they were on tie team , I am assuming it should be safe to ask?

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Post ID: @yph+1tfO7prF

Someone on our team was let go second week of June and our manager told us it was for violating FOW. Might have been lying to us to give us fear of FOW though

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Post ID: @eqp+1tfO7prF

@qjz+1tfO7prF

Was the write-up the first step he took?

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Post ID: @lax+1tfO7prF

I posted in a different thread, but I got written up for non-compliance. But it’s cause I have an a--hole boss who doesn’t like me because I’m not a boot li---r. I perform well enough that I can’t get put on a PIP for my work, so he found an easy way to write me up. I will be 100% complying from here on in until I can leave the company. I think it just depends on if your boss wants to get rid of you.

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Post ID: @qjz+1tfO7prF

@anu+1tfO7prF

Not the OP but based on the ratio of occupied vs empty desks across weeks of shackle days, it's pretty evident that my location is far from 100% compliance.

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Post ID: @ozx+1tfO7prF

I am not sure but I'm going to begin testing the waters after next week. Cut out a little early, maybe miss a day. If i get a reprimand, i can get back above the bar.

I can't imagine they'd fire someone as the first step, unless that person was already skating on thin ice. But we will see.

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Post ID: @nia+1tfO7prF

There was some other post about that. I personally know a lot of people who are not coming due to commute issues and have decided to wait and watch. I am just trying to know if the HR folks are just giving empty threats since I would like to take it a bit too. My day begins way too early now and ends way too late.

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Post ID: @yfw+1tfO7prF

How do you know other people aren’t complying?

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