Your manager choose to RIFF you. If you have been RIFFed and feel you have been wronged, bring a lawsuit against your manager. Don't waste your time trying to sue the company. Chances are, you have a winnable suit against your direct manager and the department head. If you were treated differently, ignored, excluded and you can prove it, you have a case against them and can sue for damages. This approach does work and your manager will be terminated as a result. It's worth reaching out to your DOL and getting a list of attorneys you can call. Oh and do not worry if you signed the document, it has no power of enforcement. Your attorney will most likley laugh when you hand it to him/her
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Who in the he-l would take that risk. I'd rather be an individual contributor then risk being sued. Pluse, it su-ks for everybody in the group. You may be called to give a statement and thats not fun..wink, wink!
Managers have been sued. The company will settle quickly.
hahahaha .. all the responders saying that the OP is wrong or an id--t for the post HAVE TO BE “PPL LEADERS” Or the equivalent. These decisions HAVE TO HAVE AN ALGORITHM! and if the algorithm doesn’t include PERFORMANCE first, then the company is def up to be sued! Surely you all don’t think we are all put into a “HAT” and then picked this way?? Should that be the way and all women are picked, or all African Americans are picked, or all men, you don’t think that’s lawsuit worthy? COME’ON! RIFs are personal! I know of at least 3 teams where the manager and director are BFFs! Verifiable.
Exactly. Not only have I seen the company put names on lists without manager involvement or even knowledge, I'm 90% positive that in this round there were several on the list for my department that my boss fought tooth and nail to save. Even still, we lost six that we couldn't afford to lose, because someone had to go.
I have reason to believe our list was probably at least 50% longer before my boss managed to get it whittled down, and if I'm right, he'll have to fight for us even harder next time. Our numbers will eventually come up.
“ I'm sure the company will protect me.”.
Sarcasm, right? It’s gotta be.
I do not want to get sued because I was told to RIF my employee. I'm sure the company will protect me.
As a Director who had Managers reporting to me twice in 6 months I was given no choice, just names. Both times RIFs were done by my Department Sr. DIrector and I had no knowledge even though they were my direct reports. It was devastating, and they were not the weakest links. The first round was one manager who was a stellar performer and I had given her an Impact Award the day before, in my heart I believe the Senior Director just did not care for her.
To the person who wrote, I like Google Attorneys. What are the chances of me reading this post while having a beer with my buddy , who is an attorney for Google. He's laughing as we read this cr-p. Oh and anybody can be sued.
I will never know for sure, but I have reason to believe corporate put me on the list and my boss fought for me.
Managers absolutely don't have the first and last word on this. Sometimes they get one or the other, but they rarely get both, and even if they get the last one, they'll have to fight twice as hard next round.
As someone else said, this su-ks for the managers too. I know the ones in my org are heartbroken.
I love google attorneys !
Thanks for saving me the time of writing exactly this.
This is not only terrible advice, it's flat out stupid and illustrates an astonishing lack of understanding of how any of this works. There's no such thing as bringing a lawsuit against a direct manager, to start, and it managed to get even more id--tic from there.
you are pure DK Bose..read it reverse
So the OP is a esoB DK? I still don’t get it. Yeah, agree; useless post.
Stupidest post I ever saw in this site.
@OP you are pure DK Bose..read it reverse
When you were hired you signed paperwork agreeing to "at will" employment. Unless you can prove disparate impact was a result of your Rif, you are wasting time and money.
The law is rarely on the employee's side.
I agree with the others, you are a id--t.
Good point about having an attorney look at the paperwork. This is underhanded not one warning notice? In (14 blues and what 3-4 greens) 17-18 states including P rico and all the jobs are going overseas. People need to start speaking up because this company is railroading us and America.
This is terrible advice. I’m not sure why people think managers have any power at this company. Managers are as disposable as front line staff. Managers don’t get to make big decisions they do what they’re told to do. Most managers care about their team and hate the position they have been put in. I had to RIF people and I had no idea who it was or that I was even doing it until a meeting invite with HR showed up on my calendar one day. People need to stop villainizing other people, the real villains don’t know our names, we are a data point on a spreadsheet. This is a stressful situation and pitting people against each other is counter productive.
It's not a bad idea.
I D I O T.
Your direct manager was TOLD to RIF you.
Or your direct manager was told to RIF someone, and you were it because you were the weakest link, or you were the one with the job title that was eliminated.
You are an id--t.
You go first and let us know how it goes.