Thread regarding Anthem Inc. layoffs

How long do we stay at office after swiping?

Are they only looking at how many badge swipes we have? It seems like a lot of people only stay in the office for an hour or two.

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@1llj+1tHYeB3W

Nothing to do with rif. Everything to do with those "awards" we keep getting that don't seem to match up to actual employee experience. They never had a plan to do anything with that data, other than use it to show magazines how amazing they are for being willing to hire people who need accommodations. Well, thanks for hiring people, not giving them their accommodation, and then treating them like garbage. Thank goodness we're a global outsourcing business and not healthcare. That sounds so morally questionable...

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Post ID: @3cah+1tHYeB3W

@2ytm+1tHYeB3W

That's what gets me, and I hate it. We hired people on our team who are nowhere near a PulsePoint, and we hired them because they were the best people for the job. They probably took salary cuts for the opportunity to work remote for us. Now they're on the chopping block? And now we're limited to talent within 50 miles? If someone within 50 miles had fit the bill in the first place, we'd have hired THEM. It's shortsighted and stupid.

This doesn't even factor in the people who've been fully remote for YEARS, hired as such way before covid. I don't think they could be fu--ing this up more if they were trying to.

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Post ID: @2egq+1tHYeB3W

I get some employees being made to return to the office. What I don’t get is that those of us who were full-time WFH before Covid are also being made to return to office.

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Post ID: @2ytm+1tHYeB3W

The company is requiring us to return to the office to support local communities. This initiative aims to boost nearby businesses as employees spend on gas, dining, and shopping. While this benefits local economies and provides tax advantages for the company, it places an undue burden on employees with middle-class salaries.

If leadership, who earn significantly more, are truly committed to supporting local communities, they should lead by example and come to the office every single day.
For those of us with lower salaries, the increased costs of commuting are a significant concern. Without corresponding salary increases, this policy feels inequitable. In the future, as work dynamics evolve, this approach may seem outdated and misaligned with current workforce needs.

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Post ID: @2njs+1tHYeB3W

@2ytf+1tHYeB3W Unless corporate real estate is significantly different than residential, I don't see how this is a buyer's (or leaser's) market, though I do think it's a matter of money tied up in corporate real estate -- I mean, they're all personally invested in it. I see no other reason they'd continue leasing prime real estate when the collective has proven we can get the job done from home for pennies on the dollar. Think of the tens of millions saved in letting leases expire or reducing lease space. Even early termination fees on leases would be an overall cost savings.

Can you imagine what Wacker and Penn are costing?

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Post ID: @2ltw+1tHYeB3W

@1svc+1tHYeB3W
"if this is Gail’s idea it appears she’s heading out "
It was Gloria's idea well before Gail was even on the scene. Gail picked up the baton and ran with it. And even if Gail leaves, her "leadership" team is still in place, and unfortunately, odds are they are like-minded.
Plus, with so much money tied up in real estate assets, their use must be justified. (They could sell some, but it's a buyer's market.)

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Post ID: @2ytf+1tHYeB3W

How could they implement everyone going back to an office full time when there is not enough office space? Plus if this is Gail’s idea it appears she’s heading out since she sold 17 million in stocks so maybe whoever takes over will change this insane policy. It’s cheaper for people to work from home. Our team is not required to go into an office at all. We do not collaborate & we are all metric based so it makes no sense.

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Post ID: @1svc+1tHYeB3W

@1gvy+1tHYeB3W Completely agree nothing we do is going to change anything- so do as little as you can while you can …

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Post ID: @1utq+1tHYeB3W

Being in office 5 days per week?!? What is this, 1986? Will we do happy hour every Friday too???

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Post ID: @1tbj+1tHYeB3W

Associates have been invited to voluntarily update any disability status they may have, If they feel so inclined.

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Post ID: @1llj+1tHYeB3W
  • "trying to see how much you can get away with will ruin this for yourself and others. This behavior will end up driving all of us back to the office more."

Face it, they're going to send everyone back to the office regardless. If people abuse the current rules, it'll be: "you couldn't handle the honor system, so it's full-time all-day for everyone. If people comply with the current rules, it'll be: "the rollout has been successful, so let's ramp it up to full-time all-day." Heads, they win...tails, you lose.

  • "if they push for more days in the office I will push back and take my skills, industry knowledge and expertise elsewhere."

And they'll have gotten their wish, to cut staffing and/or ship jobs to India, while not having to pay you supplemental/severance.

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Post ID: @1gvy+1tHYeB3W

Go to the source...ask your manager

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Post ID: @zbn+1tHYeB3W

Ask your manager what the requirement is for your team or department because this differs. Our team is required 1 day per week but my friend's team is required 2 days per week.

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Post ID: @wjv+1tHYeB3W

What happens when the 1st of the month falls on Friday and we are required to badge swipe the first week of the month? Do we stack three people in one chair in a cube in these smaller PulsePoint locations to meet the hybrid requirement? These rules are getting way beyond ridiculous, in addition to the rules changing by our immediate management every other week. There has got to be a more creative way to get people to go somewhere else to work so they can get out of paying us SUPP.

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Post ID: @gwn+1tHYeB3W

We simply do not have enough desk space for everyone in our area to come in and stay all day. We were told a few hours was fine and they were not putting a time in office needed, so that’s what I do. Some days even reserving for a few hours is problematic unless I start at dark thirty. There are very few desks left even two weeks out to reserve more than a few hours.

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Post ID: @ddb+1tHYeB3W

@puj+1tHYeB3W

Not to mention if you're on VPN, it's obvious you aren't in the office. "Interesting, Johnny swiped on the 13th, but was also on VPN for five hours between 12 and 5PM."

As you said, the data is there.

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Post ID: @wbj+1tHYeB3W

I come in for the precise minimum required by my manager, and no more. I was 100% OPW for over a decade, and if they push for more days in the office I will push back and take my skills, industry knowledge and expertise elsewhere.

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Post ID: @hqq+1tHYeB3W

The data is there to track how long you are at the office. Whether or not this data is being actively tracked is yet to be seen. What do I mean? When you come into an office, your laptop or phone connects to the WiFi. When you leave, a disconnect timestamp is logged as well. It is simple math to see how long you are staying. I agree with the posted replies…lack of compliance will just hasten a full rerun to work for us all.

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Post ID: @puj+1tHYeB3W

@gtg+1tHYeB3W

While I share your confidence that they are moving to five days a week, I don't share your confidence that they're bluffing. People are already getting corrective actions for not going in, and if your role is so unique that they're overlooking it for you, that likely isn't the case across enterprise. Exceptions at this point are rare, good for you if you've gotten one or your noncompliance is being tolerated, but others will not be so fortunate.

Plus, unless backfills are frozen indefinitely, it wouldn't be too difficult for them to pluck from UHG's flood they're sending to the market - likely at lower pay.

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Post ID: @irq+1tHYeB3W

Do what you think is the right thing to do!!!

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Post ID: @wse+1tHYeB3W

Guys, they are bringing you back into the office 5 days per week. Your compliance with this nonsense is what will accelerate their implementation. They have been soft launching for months and by staying at the office you are just validating their efforts. I refuse to come in because it is a material change to my job and I’ve communicated that. Nothing has happened because they are bluffing and don’t even have the budget to hire anyone to take over the work. I’m not going to drive to work for no reason just to get laid off. I’ll just stay home and let it ride.

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Post ID: @gtg+1tHYeB3W

Stay as long as you need to so that you are in compliance. Why risk it for yourself and others, as this mind set of trying to see how much you can get away with will ruin this for yourself and others. This behavior will end up driving all of us back to the office more.

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Post ID: @qqr+1tHYeB3W

Make sure you always change desk areas so no one can see a pattern as well...

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Post ID: @owc+1tHYeB3W

I agree with the post advising stay all day. They said a day in office. Not half day. Enough people do this and everyone will be forced back in office due to selfish behavior.

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Post ID: @twi+1tHYeB3W

This is the bs that’s going to force everyone back into the office, all day. Keep your coffee badge swipe behaviors to yourself. HR is aware of this site

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Post ID: @kni+1tHYeB3W

Depends on your manager and their spy. My managers is in different location but they have a team lead (spy) who reports if someone is constantly not following the guidelines.

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