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Farley getting press releases with excuses for poor Q2 earnings out early-prepare for layoffs

Ford sacrifices short-term profits to fix its costly recall problem
Keith NaughtonBloomberg

Ford Motor Co. CEO Jim Farley is so fed up with being the most recalled automaker in America that he’s willing to lose money to fix what’s ballooned into a $4.8 billion a year problem.

For the foreseeable future, Farley says, the company will hold newly redesigned models for up to six weeks to perform extra quality checks that go beyond the extensive tests Ford undertakes in its factories.

Over time, the automaker hopes to reduce warranty reserves that have more than doubled in five years. In the short term, however, it means Ford will take a revenue hit by not immediately shipping models to dealers.

“Our earnings may be a little lumpy,” Farley told analysts on Ford’s first-quarter earnings call in April. “What we’re going to see long term is fewer recalls and lower warranty costs because of this new process.”

Earlier this year, Farley pioneered this “build-and-hold” approach with the newly redesigned F-150 pickup - Ford’s best-selling vehicle. More than 60,0000 fully built F-150s sat in parking lots around Metro Detroit for weeks so engineers could check them for quality problems. Ford reported a 65% decline in earnings before interest and taxes in its internal combustion engine unit while holding one of its most profitable models.

But the extra quality checks also allowed the automaker to avoid 12 recalls, Farley said, including software glitches and assembly problems.

Now, Farley is holding another marquee model, a redesigned version of the Explorer sport-utility vehicle, for extra tests. He plans a similar approach later this year with updated editions of the Bronco Sport compact SUV and hot-selling Maverick small pickup.

Quality challenges have afflicted Ford throughout its history, but it has become a crisis in recent years. The company is recalling more cars and spending more to fix them.

Last year, Ford set aside $1,203 for warranty repairs on each vehicle it sold, up from $591 in 2019, according to Warranty Week magazine, which tracks corporate repair expenses. In total, the automaker spent $4.8 billion last year fixing its customers’ cars, or about 4% of automotive revenue — a rate roughly three times the industry.

In general, automakers are issuing more recalls. The increased complexity of advanced electronics and a greater proclivity toward preempting potential problems have led to a 42% jump in vehicle recalls from 2013 to 2023, according to the latest data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Still, Ford’s annual recalls have soared past competitors: It’s had the distinction of being the most recalled automaker in the United States since 2020.

“It’s frustrating to investors not to see the problem go away,” said David Whiston, an auto analyst with Chicago-based Morningstar Inc. “At a minimum, you’d like to see Ford on parity with GM and striving to be on parity with Toyota, the industry gold standard. But there’s a long way to go.”

The company said that it has seen a 10% improvement on quality in 2024 models, based on internal measurements. Its defect rate for its latest launches has fallen to 20%, which Ford says is in line with the industry average. Independent studies show Ford is still ranks below average among its peers.

“We are somewhere in the middle of the pack and obviously we’re not happy with being in the middle of the pack,” Kumar Galhotra, Ford’s chief operating officer, said in an interview. “The goal is to move very rapidly to catch Toyota.”

Toyota envy

Farley, who spent the first two decades of his career at Toyota Motor Corp., has been sounding the alarm on Ford’s flagging quality since he became CEO in October 2020.

Ford “needed a much more fundamental reset than I had realized,” the CEO told investors at the Wolfe Research Global Auto Conference in February. He added: “We all have regrets and that’s a big one for me. It’s a humbling thing.”

In addition to more rigorous testing, the company has reworked executive compensation so salaried staff don’t get their full bonus without hitting quality targets.

Stubborn quality problems have dogged several recent additions to Ford’s lineup. High-profile issues include a battery-connector flaw in the electric Mustang Mach-E crossover that caused some to lose power, engine failures in the cash-cow Bronco SUV and the risk of engine fires in the otherwise well-received Maverick hybrid pickup.

“Launches have been very problematic for Ford,” Frank Hanley, senior director overseeing JD Power’s initial quality survey, said in an interview. “They do recoup and fix those problems over time,” he said, but “then the next launch would come and the vehicle would suffer again.”

Before Ford started holding new vehicles for extra quality checks, the CEO told investors in April that it saw a 70% increase in flaws when it launched new models.

The carmaker’s growing line of electric vehicles tend also to be among the most feature-laden models, which often means more glitches. Ford further complicates matters by rushing to market nascent advanced technologies, such as its hands-free driving system BlueCruise, ahead of Asian rivals.

Columbus, Ohio, Ford dealer Rhett Ricart said he complained to Farley about the automaker's growing recalls five years ago, before the Ford executive had become CEO. Ricart was fed up with receiving new cars from Ford filled with flaws that would then sit on his lot, awaiting repair parts, leaving him unable to sell the cars until his mechanics fixed them.

While the current approach means waiting longer for new models, Ricart thinks it’s an improvement.

“In the old days they would have delivered them, but now they're saying, ‘No, we're going to fix ‘em first before we get ‘em to you,’” Ricart said. “Ford’s got it right now.”

That troubleshooting of the F-150, for example, uncovered one defect involving a wiring harness — a sheath full of important electrical wires — that was being improperly installed behind the dashboard instrument panel. That caused the harness to rub against a metal bracket that would have led to a rupture in the wiring and could have caused the instrument gauge screen to go blank. Engineers fixed it before it went to dealer lots, avoiding a lengthy repair process.

Overall, the F-150 launch this year has resulted in fewer defects than last year's rollout of the Super Duty, Farley said in April, without offering specifics.

Ultimately, though, fixing cars after they’re already built — and taking a hit to earnings while they sit in holding lots — is not an ideal solution, nor is it how the highest-quality automakers operate, automotive experts say. Ford needs to address issues farther upstream in how it designs and engineers its models if it wants to be in the same league with Toyota.

“They’ve got to get to a point where they aren’t having to take drastic actions to avoid being the most recalled,” said Karl Brauer, executive analyst for researcher iSeeCars. “They’ve got to do better.”

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@aeym+1t79k3Fa: Don't waste your time. The political situation in India is very fluid. Soon the jobs will be moving to cheaper locations like Thailand and the Philippines.

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Post ID: @adnp+1t79k3Fa

Start learning to speak Hindi, by end of the decade all core engineering operations will be in India.
South America is just a disguise since Americans hate Mexico, and Brazil. But it is just smoke and mirrors. 80% of Purchasing is already in India and almost all STA operations are handled by there

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Post ID: @aeym+1t79k3Fa

Enjoy the ride my friend.

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Post ID: @6lnf+1t79k3Fa

Farley hasn't been as bad as people here make him out to be.

One of the most important things that he has done has been to increase the diversity at Ford North America.

Shortly after the SIRP, he stated publicly that Ford was way behind the competition when it came to DEI. Way Behind.

He hugs his heels in and steered our ship in the right direction. We have far more DEI colleagues at Ford than ever before.

And this has lead to the success we have to show in the recent years.

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Post ID: @6brj+1t79k3Fa
That's not how capitalism works.

The countries Ford is sending their engineering work to don’t know how capitalism works. Their governments control their economies and the exchange rates of their currencies.

We need fair trade, not free trade.

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Post ID: @6tzy+1t79k3Fa

Ford needs to cut costs.

If it weren't for the greedy employees - the UAW makes of 80k annually - the corporate workers think their college degrees deserve 100k+ annually.

Ford will send our jobs to countries where people will accept less pay. So we have to accept less pay. If we don't, we will have no pay.

Government can't force companies to keep jobs here. That's not how capitalism works.

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Post ID: @6wzo+1t79k3Fa

The downfall of Ford is that they won’t support career growth, embolden their people to provide honest feedback, and get stifled by chain of command tactics so that senior leadership will relay top issues to management. This has and will never change to either their blatant misunderstanding of the issues or willful negligence.

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Post ID: @5qpn+1t79k3Fa

# Quality does not improve by

  1. Hiring "revolving door" execs from outside the company
  2. Laying-off people with 10+ years experience
  3. Laying-off those the most qualified (because they make more money)
  4. Hiring cheap workers. (They stay long enough to get trained and exit to get better pay)
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Post ID: @1fuz+1t79k3Fa
Don't be fool for that game, go where you're appreciated and paid what your worth.

They've finagled things so now the retirement age to get full Social Security is 67 years old. So as you are approaching 60, you still have maybe 10 or more years left to be in the work force. But Ford wants only young non-U.S. citizens and all the transplant suppliers with offices in SE MI only want to hire young people from their homelands too.

So, for older workers, it's bad. And DEI hiring and retention politics are making it even worse.

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Post ID: @1pwi+1t79k3Fa

@1fmt+1t79k3Fa Say hola to your other amigos down there in Mexico City from Dearborn. Convincing Fartley to offshore engineering work to 3rd world countries will be the downfall of Ford. Save 50% on labor costs, spend 200% more on quality issues! You guys can stick to growing avocados, we will handle the big boy jobs. American ingenuity built this company, and we will be the ones who save it.

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Post ID: @1hug+1t79k3Fa

Whats really hilarious is that STEM wages are market rate, FORD is the one competing for workers, not the other way around.

The UAW wages aren't market rate... Just look at how much cheaper non-unionozed plants in the south are for the asian automakers. If anything, the UAW needs to compete to make Ford competitive

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Post ID: @1blc+1t79k3Fa

@1fmt+1t79k3Fa

"If these American STEM workers want to KEEP their jobs, they're going to have to COMPETE."

How exhausting. No just leave for another job. Somewhere quality isn't such an unreasonable effort like Toyota or GM. Better yet, maybe get out of automotive? If Ford wants to pay LCC stem and they think that's they way out, let them go. They (Ford) have a plan. Let them execute it how they see fit. No one said you had to stay and take a sh-t salary in order to "compete". Don't be fool for that game, go where you're appreciated and paid what your worth. Don't compete with LCC. You can't when it comes to wage, and that is a drink C level management will always drink...lowering wages.

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Post ID: @1hvd+1t79k3Fa

@1fmt+1t79k3Fa

Absolutely a case of you get what you pay for

The engineering coming out of Mexico, Brazil, India is worthless. That engineering + UAW incompetence is the root of our quality problem

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Post ID: @1tlf+1t79k3Fa

No hope for a Company with a mindset to follow others for the innovation. Eventually will fail.

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Post ID: @1ydp+1t79k3Fa

Remember all those "quality training" classes you had to take last year?

How's that working out?

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Post ID: @1mkc+1t79k3Fa

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-06-20/ford-recalls-delay-launch-of-new-bronco-and-explorer-models

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Post ID: @1fpn+1t79k3Fa

Yeah!!

This is ALL HR's fault!

Every layoff in the history if Ford was specifically the result of HR.

HR decides when layoffs happen. HR chooses which employees get let go.

It's not executive leadership. It's the HR GSRs that are responsible for this.

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Post ID: @1obw+1t79k3Fa

@1fmt+1t79k3Fa

Reporting in from HR? lol

As a DRE myself at another OEM working with some of these engineers in low cost countries, most of them are clueless. They have little to no practical knowledge or experience. Wouldn’t trust them to make a drawing on a napkin let alone engineer and release hardware that could impact the health and safety of my family.

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Post ID: @1ldd+1t79k3Fa

Our costs are way too high and we are way too overstaffed with overpaid engineers.

We have a growing team of STEM professionals in low cost countries.

If these American STEM workers want to KEEP their jobs, they're going to have to COMPETE.

If the competition is willing to do the same job for 50 grand, then our US-based white collar workers are going to have to take pay cuts to be cost competitive with the low cost countries.

That's our only hope of saving our American jobs.

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Post ID: @1fmt+1t79k3Fa

Get rid of JIMMY!!!!

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Post ID: @kmq+1t79k3Fa

Billy-bob and Jimi are both self serving political id--ts and I wouldn't hire either one to operate a 7 Eleven!!

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Post ID: @gxw+1t79k3Fa

The problem? UAW workers make too much money to smoke dope, drink on the job, and do a terrible job. Talk to any UAW rep, they'll tell you that if someone has an accident in the plant, the union tells them to go home and say they left sick. Otherwise they have to take a mandatory dr-g test that they have no chance of passing.

Fire the UAW. Bring back design jobs to the US. It's the only way to fix quality.

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Post ID: @vtg+1t79k3Fa

After a 5-year nonstop talk show and now have all the "right people" he needed to work for him, the same problem is worse than before.

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Post ID: @eox+1t79k3Fa

Just pulled off the passenger side tire to repair a leak on my 2022 F150 and the wheel bearing cup was only installed half way and cocked.

Still need the rear brake wire fixed and the wiper arm replaced under recall.

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Post ID: @tjl+1t79k3Fa

“In addition to more rigorous testing, the company has reworked executive compensation so salaried staff don’t get their full bonus without hitting quality targets.”

This sentence sums up why Farley is now working on a problem that has been obvious his entire career at Ford: his bonus will get smaller.

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