Is it just my office or is everyone watching their coworkers work a few hours and go home? Not to mention open desks all over the place on anchor days (even though it is busier). People don't seem to be following the 8 hours rule.
25 replies (most recent on top)
"They are called “coffee badgers” by the RTO teams. Because they badge in and drink coffee and leave. Not really drink coffee b/c not every site has coffe but theoretical coffee."
That's funny and apt. I hope these folks fare ok after reports come to their bosses. At least in offices where they track badges in and out.
They are called “coffee badgers” by the RTO teams. Because they badge in and drink coffee and leave. Not really drink coffee b/c not every site has coffe but theoretical coffee.
There are SO many more important things for the press to report on than Cigna requiring employees to be hybrid. As everyone hunting for a fully remote job knows, most jobs are hybrid. This isn't news just because it b-ms you out.
MSM is not going to run a story about employee mistreatment unless there are major labor laws being broken. While it would be good for the general public to know the hypocrisy, this kind of hypocrisy is rampant at most Fortune 500 corporations and media isn’t going to run something they can’t really substantiate. Don’t hold your breath on vitality entering public conversation.
"Why would the press care that some Cigna employees work in office 3 days a week? Slow news day?"
It's the fact that Cigna is very publicly preaching "Vitality" for their employees and patients, but doing things that are making achieving Vitality difficult, without concern for those with mitigating circumstances.
Someone recently posted on this board about a physically handicapped employee who was successfully working at home, and was told they must come to the office since the building has ramps and is ADA accessible. That's not going to improve that employee's Vitality. There is no reason why that person has to be in the office. Cigna probably wants to avoid the medical costs associated with that employee and is trying to get them to resign.
This, and other reasons are why the press should be notified.
@2nxv+1t5ucUqb I feel bad for you because I personally know people who aren’t even showing up to office. They have their reasons. But atleast when you try to make a few hours. thats better than not at all. They could have just made anchor days and 8 hours not such a mandatory thing. Wonder what is going to happen to people who are not at all complying.
Why would the press care that some Cigna employees work in office 3 days a week? Slow news day?
Still su-ks that the press haven't gotten wind of this doubling down on a policy.
It really stinks that they did this in the summer. We are juggling summer camp dropoffs that we signed up for in January, long before we knew about anchor days, back when it was announced that we would be in office >50% of the time. Who makes a rule and then goes back and makes it stricter? That’s like management 101. My husband works for another company and also has to go into the office on one of the anchor days. It’s stressful for no reason. I’m working split shifts to drive home for mid-day drop offs because I promised my kid and at least I will keep my promises, even if Cigna won’t.
I am not sure about hours per day but this place is a wasteland. At least it's a great environment for me to catch up on fishing videos three full days each week. 24 hours of that in-office frees up a lot of off-work time for other items and almost evens things up for forcing us in. I'm good with it.
"I got written up by my manager last week for violating FOW policy for only being at the office for 3 hours on an anchor day. If I do it again it will be written warning and I was told termination after that."
Woah! I'm so sorry. I've not heard that from anyone else yet so I guess your boss really is a jerk. This company, I swear.
Do managers know what's happening after three months, something about it's down to managers to enforce at that point?
How can they legally fire people for violating the policy for some people and not others?
They are 100% watching time on everyone, your company owned computer has to login to a company owned network they can see time connected and those not complying are to be warned and then fired if they fail to comply that expectation has been shared with us managers. Get in line with the policy or leave is their position and they will help you leave if necessary. They are 100% onboard with attrition so don’t think you are the stellar employee that will be exempt from compliance
How did your boss know you were only in for three hours?
I got written up by my manager last week for violating FOW policy for only being at the office for 3 hours on an anchor day. If I do it again it will be written warning and I was told termination after that. My manager is an a--hole so I’m not surprised. I will be in the office from now on but I’m now in full on job hunting mode. Glad not everyone is being watched like this, but the goal of getting us to quit is working in my case. F this place and these out of touch elite wealthy C-suite mother fkrs.
"How the Cigna threats aren't working and people are living their lives anyway."
I'm the OP, this is what I was saying. I'm glad people are keeping their boundaries and doing what they need to, not what the Cigna ge----o mandates. I just meant how this can't be going the way they thought it would with all their threats and carefully worded legalese policies. Keep doing what you're doing, folks!
My office is still half empty on anchor days.
This will impact us all when they start monitoring computers for their RTO reporting instead of badge swipes to see who is leaving. The ones that don’t do what they have been asked to do have already sc--wed us over once. It will happen again. That is the only reason I care.
Kind of weird to think some of our coworkers are monitoring what time we leave so closely jeez!
I didn't take it as the OP trying to 'be the police' - just observational of how its going in general and wondering if others are noticing the same. How the Cigna threats aren't working and people are living their lives anyway. Isn't that the kind of speculation and observations that always goes on here in these threads?
Some folks end up in conference rooms most of the day on anchor days. I’m never at my desk all day when I’m there.
I’m no fan of RTO honestly. I find it difficult to sit in some of those conference room chairs. I don’t like commuting either.
So? 🤨 …how does it impact you or your work or your salary ?
Mind your own business!
To the OP and everyone else commenting on others leaving early. Why do you care? Just do as you please and let them be. You can stay the full eight hours or just find another job if you are annoyed about others leaving early. Maybe those leaving are very efficient people who can get the work done in a short time? Maybe they have something going on in their lives or who knows what… why are we being the police here? Is there some incentive for being the police that i have missed?
I watch one guy every day he's in office who leaves at the same time every day, usually 4 hours after he's arrived (some days only 3 hours). I know of few in my office who stay the whole 8 hours.
I know some come in super early then leave early. Others, come in and leave within 5 hours.