So I found out from a recruiter that if you work from home & your not within 50 miles of an office that you cannot transfer within the company without asking your boss if he/she will contact the VP of HR and ask for an exemption, once you do that, if you apply for a job within the company you immediately have to contact the recruiter & let them know that you have an exemption. The hiring manager also has the discretion to interview & hire you b/c you live over 50 miles from an office. I wondered why I was not getting interviews as I have been trying to leave the department I’m in for months now. I applied to at least 20 jobs & not one interview. I was more than qualified for the positions I applied to. Well, now I know why. This was never communicated to me by the company or my boss. I hope this information is useful to others. Like why would I ask my boss to contact HR to ask for an exemption to leave my current role, so that I can be treated like total cr-p & ostracized? Let’s be real.
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If you've ever seen the nyc office which I visited when in town from IN. Holy moly that musta cost a couple million to update. It has a Zen room, water fountains, foosball tables and stand up treadmill desks. WTF? It's icy, cold and quiet, unfriendly with strangers hunched in tiny cubes overlooking Madison Square Garden. And they pipe in the sounds of freaking seagulls and the ocean - I kid you not.
You can bet your a-s you better come in to that office, we're talking PRIMO $$$ real estate - high millions in commercial leases so sit your a-s down and shut the F up - If you were Albert Einstein and lived 51 miles from a Pulse Point you not be hired by this company. But you can have a lobotomy and live 30 miles away and you're HIRED! Stupid fat cat decision making is so D-MB and makes employees unproductive and resentful.
Let me guess ..you are in the training department?
This isn’t news…it was all spelled out in the new hybrid workforce policy. Yes, it su-ks.
I’m part of an interview panel with my boss and all the candidates that she is allowing to move forward must be within 50 miles of a pulse point. So the applications that have addresses not within 50 miles of a pulse point are an automatic no between her and the recruiter. This was news to me.
More work got done during COVID, because the office water cooler decisions stopped. A team rarely works in the same offices. If there is a majority in one office location then those team members tend to make the decisions for all locations. When all were working remotely, dynamics changed. Now with office politics back in play, collaboration is less. If you are going to have office locations, make it count and have entire teams local to that office and nowhere else. The benefits given for going to the office and the implementation to achieve those benefits is off.
Y'all, be real. Gail hates WAH employees. Did you know that in her first week on the job, she found out that admins were allowed to work from home. What did she do? She ordered them all into the office 100% of the time or be fired... that was pre covid (2017), and in 2019 she was rolling this whole hybrid policy when covid hit a few months later. This whole "come into the office or face discrimination" is her. Its her pet boomer project, her pet boomer peeve. I wonder how much money she's wasted on remolding all the offices? Know thy enemy, Who had a cr-p culture? United Healthcare... you know the place where she was exiled from.
We have people in our department that don’t even live in a State with an office nor close enough to a bordering state and they don’t seem concerned about their job. Really odd.
@4qwu+1t3v6RbV - Let's not sugar coat it. Anyone and everyone who leaves this company will automatically be in a better place.
I actually interviewed under the same management team, but just a different boss within my area went through all of the rounds of interviews and emerged as the top candidate. Had someone from HR contact me and say I was the chosen candidate, but that if I can’t go into an office, I can’t get the job because it would have to be an exception less than one percent of exceptions have been getting granted. I had been a work at home employee for over 15 years. And did not live anywhere near an office. keep in mind this was still under the same management team, just a different boss then I was told that I would have to also take a pay cut to take the job that was a higher pay grade .
I have since left the company and I am in a much better place.
The recruiter could tell instantly by what it says in Workday. It says something like 50 miles + from a Pulse Point in workday. Many departments have workers on their team like this. The issue is why weren’t we told this in a meeting or an email that we would not be considered for other roles so don’t bother applying unless we get an exemption? It’s discrimination at its finest. My manager retaliates & treats us horribly everyday, I can’t imagine what she would do if I told her I wanted to apply for different roles therefore I need her permission & to have her send an email asking HR for an exemption. Seriously ? This company is outrageous.
My manager told me just to drive in swipe my badge and make a quick U-turn and go back home. As long as I don't end up on a monthly report she doesn't care
We have four people on our team who were hired remote during covid and are nowhere near Pulsepoints (over 150 miles - in one case, over 800). I worry about them in this next round of RIFs, that HR will force them out. One in particular is not in a position of easily finding another job.
That 'all associates must live within 50 miles of a PulsePoint' is TOTAL BS. I know so many people within 50 miles and beyond 50 miles, who are still employed and haven't stepped foot into an office once. The 'exceptions' being made by management and HR are a complete joke! The people that I know who secretly received exceptions were either people that cover for their leadership, are informants to their management and/or are favorites of the managers.
This policy meant I had zero chance of getting out from under a leader who was the definition of toxic positivity, and refused to listen to hear and understand, only to fix. When it became clear I was a lame duck I started looking elsewhere. Left 4 months later. Glad every day since. Toxic leadership is bad enough, but being sentenced to stay under them until the company reorgs again just because of where I live WHICH THEY HAVE KNOWN SINCE THEY HIRED ME IN 2021 is absolutely discrimination.
What cities are considered primary pulse points?
There is a Hybrid policy on Pulse that was never emailed out to the employees. The only way I found out about it was clicking on Hybrid Connections box on the Pulse site. I check it monthly cause they do update it. Now it reads All associates must reside within 50 miles and what make make laugh was the line" it is not acceptable to badge in and leave. SMH.
They want people to resign so they don't have to pay severance after the RIFs that are coming this year.
Employees that live within 50 miles and are assigned to an office are just as abused. We have to ask management for 'permission' to move, even if it is only 2 miles down the road, if we need to relocate. This 'permission' is required even when the new location is well within 50 miles of the assigned office. And when the offices we are assigned to are not considered primary PulsePoint locations, we are not eligible to apply for other positions without agreeing to move to one of the primary PulsePoint locations listed in the job posting. Just complete insanity, trying to push people to quit.
Just part of their arsenal to force people out the door without having to pay severance. It’s tragic.