As you and your company made investors less wealthy and untrusted.
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We have no reason to be shame because we are pride on what we do and how we sc--w up everyone.
Haha, no. I do my part. No reason for shame.
Pride is gone with the best people.
Pretend to work and get pay checks. Who cares about Intel. Everyone knows it cannot make any more good chips after 3nm. It is done. Grab as much money as it has and prepare for your own bussiness as it is going to collapse soon.
liberal silicon valley ideology. not just intel.
Just work and get paid. Pay no mind to the rest.
Peasants Playing Politics
Word.
In my 40 year career, I’ve worked for various semiconductor companies. A lot of these companies are not around anymore. Dynasties come and go, fact of life. I learned long ago that you need to have the thought that you work to live, not live to work. Never get emotionally attached to a company, they could care less about you. I’m always amazed that when the end is near, those who are invested emotionally or played the political game with no real skills are the ones who whine the most. Intel either survives or it doesn’t, if you have skills, don’t worry. As for the rest, they get what they deserve.
No, people at Intel are shameless.
No pride in their work and it shows.
I feel like I'm mixed in with bottom-of-the-barrel engineers and definitely feel ashamed to say I work at Intel.
This is a loaded question. You have to be working to answer that question. I would think today, about 75% of current Intel employees only put in 33% effort, 20% put in 50% effort, and 3% put in 75% effort, and 2% put in 100% effort.
i don't feel any shame of working in intel nor i feel proud of leaving intel.
Whatever happens, i acknowledge that are serious fixing needs to be done in the company.
I've met great leaders, great seniors and even colleagues turn friends.
It was a bittersweet memory i had with intel.
It’s a job/career I’ve been at for 20+ years. I don’t internalize as much as to feel ashamed or anything else. I work for a large corporation that pays me to work, that’s it. I don’t have a hand in whatever decisions are made at the top, and I don’t really care.
My job doesn’t define me, so I don’t experience any anxiety, or lose any sleep over any of the stuff that so many seem to get worked up over.
So many act like they’re modern day Martin Luther’s and I’m waiting for them to protest and post their version of 95 theses as it relates to whatever conflict they feel in their small minded heads in regards to what is going on with what they see as “the cult of Intel”.
Honestly people, grow up, do your job, live your life, and enjoy everything as much as you can.
Could it be better? Why yes it can, but it could actually be much, much worse…
Only after attending a winter ball long ago and overhearing how "leadership" views the folks who actually do the work. Intel's C-suite is a cabal of elitists arrogant sc-m!
As long as the checks still cash, I still show up.
Upper management may be a mess, but my immediate management is cool to work for. Might as well ride it out as the company will likely outlive me.
Looking from external, it looks like going to split. Before it is going up again, it needs to go down to find a bottom. Still too large to be competitive.
PE (s) don't feel ashame for company failure mean that company will never able to recover 😢
Not at all. Been tirelessly fighting failing management and culture for 12 years now. It's a thankless job but someone has to do it.
@kwb - lol.. it’s late on Sunday.. time to wake up! Rise and shine! Nap time is over.
@nde - its not inefficiency. Its like a spring that is being loaded now... just an illusion that there is nothing happening and everyone else is having fun in the market. But any moment now, the spring will release and it will be Stonk time.
money is money
its not arrogance, just confidence in capabilities. There are more PM's and integrators at Intel than engineers in other companies.
Yet still has negative cash flow and poor financial performance and products are losing market share to competitors.
Maybe , just maybe… now stick with me here, I know it’s complicated.
Maybe Intel is way too inefficient?
Maybe they don’t need all of those people?
I know, I know…. There’s a lot of complexity there. Think about it.
I’ll wait, I know you’re a bit slow.
Does anyone here even know Intel and ASML developed EUV together? Now entire is enjoying the fruits.
@gtc+1sus1k1Z
lol - you got me.
Nice troll.
@gfn - its not arrogance, just confidence in capabilities. There are more PM's and integrators at Intel than engineers in other companies. Intel can unleash dazzling displays of technical firepower and raise the company to heights unseen. We all remember the 8080, 4004, 80486, Core... its just a matter of time for history to repeat itself.
Intel is low due to poor marketing and wrong announcements they do.
No, Intel is down due to negative cash flow and poor earnings prospects - as communicated by management.
The delusion and hopium of some Intel employees is a sight to behold.
Intel arrogance on display here.
They still think they’re top dog lol.
Wake up.
This isn’t 1999 anymore.
Intel is "the" name in semiconductors. Would a competent engineer want to leave that and go work where NVDA, AMD? That makes no sense. Intel will always and forever be the prime target for top flight semicon talent.
"You couldn’t pay me to leave."
Don't worry, we won't.
Intel is low due to poor marketing and wrong announcements they do. In general it’s great place to work. I would never change. I am happy with my work, and what I learn and do. I would just fire ~15-20k employees - low performing, hired by nepotism. This is pain in the a-s. Meritocracy must be back.
Intel also should be higher in stock price - it’s a foundry + design. AMD got only design, NVidia too. All done by TSMC - now it’s ok, but we do not know the future - rumors going about china getting Taiwan in next few years. Where they will do theirs chips?
Fully agree. Intel is the great land of opportunity now if you are young and ambitious engineer. With all other semis at all time highs, there is no place better than Intel to back the truck up and ride the bo-m to the moon. This could go to $300 or even $1000. Generational wealth can be created. NVDA, AMD, AAPL are all has beens.. go where the puck is going to be.
I recently got promoted to PE. I have no plans of ever leaving Intel. There is no place like Intel for those technically inclined, looking to achieve great technical accomplishments. There’s also the perks with excellent wlb and benefits. You couldn’t pay me to leave.
I don't give a cr-p about your question. Not all companies win all times. Grow 1 pair