Thread regarding Cigna layoffs

I left months ago and lost my bonus money and I am soooooo happy! God bless as I pray for u all!

@4smr+1sgbTOGo

I could not have said it better myself.

One other thing I've started doing is getting myself into unnecessary meetings. I'll accept any invite, happily sit in, contribute nothing, and do nothing productive.

There are also some meetings listed on the corporate calendar in Iris. Best believe I will be in on all of those from here on out.

I quiet quit once I was told I had to go back to the office in September. If Cigna was going to force me to spend several thousand more a year in gas, extra income tax to a state I don’t live in, and worst make me lose precious time with my kids, I decided to make an equal cut on what the company gets out of me.

I started looking for jobs, and had several interviews, including a way too low offer at a competitor, but hiring process is so broken and job market is so messed up right now, it was easier to stay and put up with commute.

Now that I don’t have flexibility on days I go in and my manager can’t approve me for short term exceptions to FOW (like when I am sick or have a sick kid at home) I am taking quiet quitting to a new level. I am now intentionally slow walking work. I no longer fix mistakes in other peoples code. I no longer volunteer to help. I write documentation in a confusing and vague way. I do things in a way that will cost the company more in the long run. And intentionally try to create inefficiencies. Nothing I do would ever impact a customers healthcare, otherwise I’ wouldn’t be doing it. I am getting a lot of satisfaction knowing that Cigna is paying a price for taking away benefits I was promised when I started.

I quit recently. As a manager, I hated the idea of monitoring adults. I’d rather go out on a high note with my professional relationships intact.

I really enjoyed all the people I worked with. And the idea that my manager would get in trouble for my non-compliance compelled me not to take it that far.

I completely understand others staying and challenging the system & this ridiculousness. Cigna will lose a lot of organizational wisdom through FoW attrition & layoffs. It’s been very sad to watch what has become of the company.

"I'd read the fine print on the recent degree...I could be wrong, but seem to recall something about commitment to staying with the company 2yrs post degree."

Nope, many companies have this rule but not Cigna. If you are an employee on the date you finish a course Cigna will pay. You can quit the next day.

I quiet quit when I got my recent Merit and Bonus. I only do the minimum as going above and beyond isn't good enough.

I am actively job hunting now but the job market su-ks and we need my income so I plan to comply come June. But my coworker has said she flat out can't do 8 hours a day (something with her kids). No idea how that's going to go for her but if she gets some kind of an exception and I don't, I'll be pi---d.

I plan to remain on payroll as long as possible, while doing as little as possible. Let them fire me if they want. I'm not going to make it any easier on them than they make it on us.

@1jtb+1sgbTOGo : Any clue on the range they consider for non compliance? How many times are you allowed miss the days before you fall into the Egregious non compliance category?

Happy for you btw . No more draconian rules and drama

“I’m sure quite a few competitor companies would love to hire me especially now when noncompetes aren’t legal anymore.”

I have never seen a no compete hold up in court when the employee was fired or laid off. Cigna would basically have to pay your salary for the remainder of the no compete period for that to happen.

"The other comment about people still WAH. Yes that is even more infuriating. When are those people being called back?"

I get the frustration. But this mentality is such a crab in the bucket view. The people who are WAH largely didn't get a choice in the designation either. I was one of them. I never got asked what I wanted. It wasn't my fault that I got that designation. It's not like having that designation meant we weren't affected by the FOW decisions. The designation could be changed at any moment without consulting us. And it's pretty clear from internal job postings that there's little growth available if you don't want a hybrid position. People with WAH status aren't the problem here. We shouldn't be lashing out at each other over decisions that weren't in our control.

Honestly, FOW and the lack of transparency regarding it was a huge reason for me to search for another job and quit despite having WAH status. It didn't sit right with me how the company is treating people with regard to coming into the office.

I quit.

For those questioning how harsh enforcement will be on RTO/FOW…they are taking enforcement away from managers, directors and departments and having a corporate-level ge----o…I mean FOW team…do enforcement at least through Q3. And termination details are all over the paperwork.

It’s clear. They are intentionally pushing people out the door. And the intensity is higher than it’s ever been

I'd read the fine print on the recent degree...I could be wrong, but seem to recall something about commitment to staying with the company 2yrs post degree. If they lay you off that's one thing, but if you give them any reason to fire you and not fulfill that (if that's still part of the terms?) I'd be concerned they'd be coming after repayment for the schooling too... I remember one lady quit years ago while in school and her saying that at least.

I’m waiting to get fired due to noncompliance. I don’t have coworkers in my state and was hired fully remote years ago. Even my manager had said they can’t even go into the officd because there aren’t desks available. So some people are required and others aren’t, and that just doesn’t sit well with me. On the plus side, I’m finishing up my Cigna paid for MBA in a few weeks so when I’m fired at least I got a free degree out of all this nonsense. I’m sure quite a few competitor companies would love to hire me especially now when noncompetes aren’t legal anymore.

I checked the Future of Work managers meeting recording on vbrick . They seemed to make it very clear about 8 hours of working on Tuesday and Wednesday. And for most cases they seemed to say the Egregious Non compliance will monitored and take action against. They seemed to suggest your manager talking to “Employee relations” if you cannot comply but those exceptions will be be tested as a forever excuse.
Basically they deflected some sensitive questions to “Employee relations” who I am pretty sure will come back with a Yes or No answer if your manager reached out to them.

The tone seemed to be crystal clear though. “Comply or get lost” was what I got from that.

I am sorry to hear everyone’s situation . But I really want to see how far they go if a person like OP shows up for 6-7 hours for 4 days and is penalized but other people doing the same thing or less are not even questioned.

The other comment about people still WAH. Yes that is even more infuriating. When are those people being called back ?

I am also planning to pull on till they find me non compliant. I think they purposely did this before summer vacations so people don’t get a choice but to bellcome non complaint so they can fire them. Such a shameful move. They could have just waited till August, what was the hurry ?
Also what about the people who are currently work at home. I am really pi---d off that they can continue to work from home while we struggle. Yes I am sounding a bit sour but it’s unfair in so many ways.

I strongly suspect there will be many that quit, some who will quiet quit and do literal bare minimum or not even that and just cling on until laid off, and only a few who will stay for a variety of reasons (genuinely in a position where a new career is impossible due to near retirement age, those with large families, those who do not have savings).