Thread regarding Anthem Inc. layoffs

@5vff+1sdlnPwM - “hungry and willing to work are taking their spot” … that’s the problem. A lot of long hours putting together examples off the internet for a big show, but not a lot of substance. Working hard is not synonymous with working smart.

“People that never had the advantages that they enjoyed.” … when you look at talent in comparison with pay, I’d say the advantage is all yours.

5vff+1sdlnPwM
What an inappropriate, inaccurate and insensitive id--tic remark!!

@5vff+1sdlnPwM - a lot of the older workers needed to keep the lights on while others put lipstick on a pig. So much money is wasted on making lateral technology changes, rather forward thinking. Management is so enamored with all the new young language like hallucination, which simply means wrong in a business context. Older workers have seen the hype cycle over and over, youth/hype eventually needs to create value. I don’t think you have the knowledge to take these skills you speak of and move the industry forward, just more AI colored 💄 to cover increased healthcare costs to members.

" blaming foreigners (codeword H1B1)"
The job of the institution is to protect American citizens.

Have you ever tried to get a job in China or India or Germany?
They protect their citizens. Why are we not?

How well do you know each of the, "older workers" to make this blanket statement? Workers of all ages...some high performers and some lower performers, some who keep their skill set up and some who don't. Don't put all, "older workers" in the same pot!!

Lots of older workers who frequent these threads that got cut recently. They didn’t keep up with their skill set in a changing world so they are blaming foreigners (codeword H1B1) and minorities (codeword DEI) for their misfortune. A big reason these people were chose for the RIFs is because these olds dogs don’t want to learn new tricks and are slow to train. They believe they are entitled to their position and are frustrated that someone much more hungry and willing to work are taking their spot. People that never had the advantages that they enjoyed.

From earlier Riffed posters, the RIF is spread out "equitably" so Anthem can't get sued. So performance is not it.

@5ffs+1sdlnPwM - You're thinking in terms of work quality. Clearly, this is of NO concern to the company. Instead, if you think in terms of annual salary then it will make sense to you. Higher performers are typically higher compensated employees, so they are the ones to go. The more you make, the bigger the target on your back. Simple. It's all about $$$ and nothing else.

To me, this is confusing. Why would they get rid of super high performers if it was just business? Wouldnt they want to get rid of the underperformers?

RIF is what happens when you have too much bloated staff except it is usually the ones doing the work that are impacted. Lets have more offsites fancy parties because that keeps a lot of poeople busy. And never forget that DEI is a fools errand and that just stands for "Didnt Earn It" I am just counting the days until I get my points then I am leaving asap.

@1kld+1sdlnPwM - learn to differentiate between a question and a statement, and punctuate correctly. Your assertion that this is business and not personal appears to be correct, though.

@1kld+1sdlnPwM : hahahaha you keep telling yourself that story. Possibly not random, but if you think 'I will just work hard and do a good job and everything will be fine' Well that is completely delusional.

@1kld+1sdlnPwM That is untrue, and probably a lie you tell yourself?

There have been super high performers impacted by a RIF. Sometimes it takes months for a RIF to happen from when the decision was made AND some of these decisions were not made by the immediate manager. This is NOT personal, but business.

I was assured that it wasnt because of performance from my supervisor when it happened to me (i developed huge projects in my dpt that no one was able to do). But i honestly think it came down to personality and bias because my supervisor didnt like me (i didnt feel that way until some months right before the RIF where she was cold and distant, and it felt like she thought everything i was saying was attacking her).

If you are performing you should have nothing to worry about. RIFs are not randomized, there’s a legitimate business reason and performance is always a component - there’s no other way to differentiate.

Pushing people to leave voluntarily so they can avoid payouts and the other consequences of a RIF is a tactic Anthem has used in the past. — A Former Employee

@nri+1sdlnPwM
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Actually, youre wrong about rif vs performance. You are told its a rif, not based on performance BUT they came to that decision based on your performance. One 1/2 meets out of say 4 meets expectations, and you are on the list to be RIFed. They are tip toeing very carefully on terminating people just because of performance (if its really slight). So they just shrug and say you are a RIF. Dont over analyze it. Accept the outcome. Do bare min until your last day. Give them their agreement. Take the severance and move on. There is nothing you can do about the decision.

The badge swiping monitoring will never make sense to me. My office is a ghost town, sad and lonely. No perks to boast about. I'd rather have windows in my home office enjoying nature while I work vs cubicle walls, loud blows, and not a colleague in sight for any ounce of collaboration.

They are happy to pay you to leave on their terms. It's better for them.

The goal of RTO was always to get people to voluntarily quit. Who believes the entire "collaborate " bullsh-t?

Looks like Evilance is now a USSR wanna-be.

You don't get RIF'ed for bad performance , that's called being terminated. There's a big difference between the two. People leaving voluntarily is not a RIF. RIF' s leads to payouts , of course if they can avoid the payout( severance) they will. This is why they are badge swiping monitoring. They will push upper management to put people on warnings etc. watch your step/back..

Dead wood always floats to the top!