Thread regarding Cigna layoffs

I agree that the industry is all doing the same thing Cigna is. It's Obvious that Cigna is a follower and not a leader in these things. So finding another more flexible job is difficult. However, since we are forced into the office... we might as well look for a job at another company is doing the same thing, but pays more. If I am going to waste my time and spend more money on transporting myself to and from an office I was never originally hired to go into, might as well get paid more from another company to come into their office.

"No, the market is flooded with the layoffs of other companies doing the same thing Cigna is doing. So depending on a person's particular field, there may be no market, or jobs that would require relocation. The latter is not feasible for most people due to a variety of reasons. Do we want to put up with it, heck no! Do we have much of a choice, no. I've been searching the job boards from every source I can find, but nothing yet that is remote or even close to what I make or do."

I absolutely understand. I've been applying for a few months now and remote work is crazy hard to come by. What few gigs I have found are paying way less than the jobs I could commute to and are insanely competitive regardless of that. Looks like I'm going to have to bite the bullet and take a pay raise to commute 15 hours a week... Which, honestly, I'd much rather not deal with. But, recruiters are blowing me up with in-office offers.

Hoping I can keep dodging the RTO and layoff bullets for long enough that remote work becomes less scarce. Even if Cigna stops being terrible over that time period, my mind if made up to get TF outta' Dodge. I can't see this as a smart company to attempt to retire at anymore. Gotta' keep moving to stay safe and relevant.

I hate job hunting so so so much. -sigh-

"So, what I'm hearing is that the only people that are willing to put up with this are those that nobody else wants to hire. Cigna will certainly have nothing but top tier talent at this rate! "

No, the market is flooded with the layoffs of other companies doing the same thing Cigna is doing. So depending on a person's particular field, there may be no market, or jobs that would require relocation. The latter is not feasible for most people due to a variety of reasons. Do we want to put up with it, heck no! Do we have much of a choice, no. I've been searching the job boards from every source I can find, but nothing yet that is remote or even close to what I make or do.

So, what I'm hearing is that the only people that are willing to put up with this are those that nobody else wants to hire. Cigna will certainly have nothing but top tier talent at this rate!

1bds+1sS7GszB The market for most workers is not as easy as you're making it sound. I know folks in my field who have been looking for months and can't find anything. (This is in IT.)

If I could instantly trade up, I'd have been gone long ago. The market for older workers is not exactly robust.

If you've worked at Cigna for more than a couple years, it makes zero sense to go along with this. I've had other jobs offering me $30-40k more for years - but wanted me to come in at least hybrid. And I like remote just THAT much more.

Why the he-l are any of you not instantly trading up when forced to come in? Low skill jobs? Bad area for jobs?

My boss specifically told me commute time didn't count anymore. This is all so ridiculous. Different answers or 'policies' on stuff like this depending on who your manager is and what they think/were told or are guessing about because they weren't told.

I made the post you're probably referring to. My boss is okay with it. He said they're literally just checking badge swipes, specifically on anchor days.

I am salaried but also regularly have to work odd hours / weekends for code deploys, etc., without comped time, so there's a bit of an understanding there. Supposedly only have to do this through September.

What panel?

If you’re on salary and your manager isn’t wondering why you aren’t online more, you can get away with this. Still can’t get around hacking to be in office minimum 8 hours, but can maybe subtract commute time from 40 for the week.

If you’re hourly, you could not only end up fired but having to pay back that time plus penalties. Court cases have determined that employers don’t have to pay for commute time.

And yeah. That town hall was serious cringe.

Not sure how to do that in a badge in/badge out facility. The only way I can try to equalize things is to waste as much time as possible while in-office.