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How many in engineering now work with India or Mexico or brazil

Compared to 4-5 yrs ago (smart redesign), how many of engineers now have Ford Mexico, Brazil, China, India (GES) engineers on your team?

How’s it working out?

Is the percentage of North American team members greatly diminished, and do the remote teams effectively solve problems that need all hand on hardware, for example in engines?

Just curious

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Post ID: @OP+1sPscum8

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My team in Mexico is fantastic. They are innovative and willing to try new ways and learn from each other. Very hardworking and dedicated to quality. A generalization of any region or country is simple minded.

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Post ID: @hkjr+1sPscum8

The team I work with in Brazil is the best. That team has suffered greatly over the past several years, but they are now growing. I have no issues with their work. They are close to my Dearborn time zone, and once I learned some of their unique english translations for things (the letter R sounding like an H, for example), my meetings are much smoother. I work with engineering and CAD there, and I am very pleased with their devotion and quality.

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Post ID: @5szp+1sPscum8

A program was given to an LCC. No input from Ford NA PD. Failed test. They were told to go back and check older tests. Guess what, issues were found. They didn’t follow proper tear down procedures. So they were awarded more programs 🙄

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Post ID: @1rik+1sPscum8

Quality has been job #1 for quite some time apparently. However, in practice it has been to stop the capital hemorrhaging. What should have been the understanding from the beginning is that quality 1st can prevent capital hemorrhage. Seems simple. But some parts of the business were asleep at the wheel. 1st attempts to fix it were what every C-level turns to in their time of need...labor cuts...the very thing that has a direct effect on quality. Were some departments top heavy? Yeah. But deep cuts in labor might get you good on a balance sheet short term, but do very little when the people leaving know what they are doing.

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Post ID: @1koe+1sPscum8

I agree that LL4+ should be outsourced to lower cost countries. They are costing us millions with poor performance records.

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Post ID: @1eks+1sPscum8

@1fyz, Ford suffers from a fear culture. Lower level leaders are afraid to admit things like inefficiencies from LCCs. The guys up top are measured on near term financial measures, so the LCC always makes sense in the short term, but the people who have to deal with the, see both the near term challenges and long term effects. LL5/6s are told to just make it work or they aren’t seen as competent. Basically they get told to work crazy hours to make up for their sh-t team. So just don’t say anything.

The real problem is that a high level guy can come in, slash budgets and stuff on a program that doesn’t deliver for a year or 2, they get it out the door and get promoted to someplace better, then leave the quality issues to the next schmuck.

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Post ID: @1iiu+1sPscum8

LLC employees has resulted in less efficient issue resolution with development vehicles in NA since not local. Has this been communicated from NA management to senior leadership or is the approach to not rock the boat and hope the issue disappears or address the issue resolution later once it becomes a job stopper?

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Post ID: @1fyz+1sPscum8

Forced marriage with LCC is going poorly in PD. Between language barriers and typical LCC attitudes, collaboration is a joke.

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Post ID: @1fle+1sPscum8

@1nvj+1sPscum8 - LOL, do you know what will happen? They will fire all the remaining U.S. GSRs and hire their OWN country employees. If you haven't noticed, Indians always lookout for their own and hire/promote from within.

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Post ID: @1tto+1sPscum8

If they were smart, they would outsource the whole LL5+ team to those countries. The salary to people ratio gives us more bang for the buck. And you get the same results...

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Post ID: @1nvj+1sPscum8

We need these LCC employees in our group, they are the only ones that do the work. Can’t find anyone local on Mondays or Fridays.

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Post ID: @1tkk+1sPscum8

Who cares about quality

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Post ID: @1zxa+1sPscum8

Google Stellantis 50k Mexico and engineers.

Happening at Ford 2

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Post ID: @1wlz+1sPscum8

Be nice to Turkey. They engineer good food! Love their Kabab.

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Post ID: @1wgu+1sPscum8

It has been a disaster. LCC engineers have no clue what they are doing. You get what you pay for!

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Post ID: @1bha+1sPscum8

Nearly every issue we're scrambling to fix right now are the fault of engineering in Mexico, and especially Turkey.

You get nothing out of Turkey except for explanations of how the problem they caused, isn't their faulr.

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Post ID: @ryd+1sPscum8

What paper do you work for? I can email you directly with these answers.

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