Just announced. 100 people will move to new ink technology lab being set up in SD. Rest will relocate to other sites, telework, or WFR.
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I'm now hearing that HP is closing its Rancho Bernardo office now, instead of in October as previously planned-and is simultaneously laying off any employees who refuse to relocate to the company's other office in the Bay Area. Can anyone confirm?
Well, ...........Bye!
RE: Work from home., original poster here. Pops as one stated in a response (lmao). I had little over 17 yrs with HP, forced out in 2001. I was devastated to say the least. The economy was in a major down-turn (911attack, stock market collapse, etc). Tech jobs were all but extinct. After joining many jobs fairs, signing up with temp agencies, and etc. I found one sector that was thriving, Government job! Yup. I had my 6-months severance package from HP, joined my local junior college, brushed up on my accounting skills, applied for an internship with my local County government, hired, which then turned into a permanent gig after written tests/group interviews, etc. In short., check out your local county, federal, DMV, courts, government for future employment. Government jobs are the fasted growing sector today per Bloomberg. Pension, union, great benefits, etc. God bless tech people.
@Tsvl+1sDvAsWi is the perfect example of a bootlicking HP lifer. Most likely avoided losing his job for many years by backstabbing numerous people and taking credit for work he never did. He’ll be one of those who will go down with the ship when the RMS-HP Titanic goes under.
"As HP continues its slow death march, its employees fail to see what’s happening. Anyone who thinks he or she has a real future at HP is a fool. I saw numerous people like this when I was at HP. Left years ago and never regretted the decision."
If you truly never regretted the decision then why bother being on this forum years later after leaving when you could literally be doing anything else instead of being so bitter on here? Sounds pretty odd to me... Anyhow, I know a handful of people who were able to start families, buy houses, and transition to better career opportunities with the help of HP. Life's what you make it folks. Don't let energy vampires like the person who made the above quote bring you down.
As HP continues its slow death march, its employees fail to see what’s happening. Anyone who thinks he or she has a real future at HP is a fool. I saw numerous people like this when I was at HP. Left years ago and never regretted the decision.
"SD is done, and Boise will be done really soon. After that, Ft Collins, which is a shell of what it once was."
Have any layoffs already taken place in SD? Anyone there who can explain what is happening and the mood in SD?
SD is done, and Boise will be done really soon. After that, Ft Collins, which is a shell of what it once was.
@Imqq+1sDvAsWi Working remotely for 8 years. Usually from 6-11am and the from 2pm-6pm. I have the same type of sour ninetofiver neighbors.
@Imqq+1sDvAsWi - You haven’t a clue about your neighbors’ work habits or anything else. You sound like some clowns I worked with at HP. Glad I never had to work with you. And glad you’re outta the workforce. Cheers, pops.
Re: working from home; I’m retired since 2020. Worked for legacy HP for 17 years, worked forced out in the HP/Agilent sin-off. Back to working from home two-cents., since the CV-19 fiasco I have direct neighbors where I reside that work from home (PGE, tech, etc). I hear and see more home remodels, yard work, long walks, parties, and etc! Great for my neighbors but, I can’t help but think how these folks working from home (wink, wink) impacts their companies/shareholders bottom line! Been witness to this for over four years now. No end in sight but hey., my neighborhood looks great! Sorry for those of you that are going thru layoffs. HP (the original HP) was awesome. Happy patriots Day.
This is really sad and depressing. Spent my last 24 years at the SD site and another 10 yrs previously in Orange County, CA. At one point, I was really proud to be an HP employee. No more. I have zero loyalty to the firm or its products.
I wish all of the folks still at the SD site the best of luck.
And to C-suite...a line from "Argo" comes to mind.
I’m baffled how there is nothing on the press regarding this. The execs are justifying the site closure as real estate saving costs and the low usage of the site infrastructure, but in reality it really seems like an opportunity to layoff hundreds of employees, disguising it as a real estate cost optimization. I would like to see HP publicly coming up with an explanation and actual numbers on how many people are getting WFR’d (my team for example had 90% WFR, only a few people were offered tw/relo)
"re: vacation... HP did away with accrued paid vacation last year and went with an "unlimited vacation" policy, in other words, no time saved up, no payment when you leave."
This is partially true. In CA any accrued vacation prior to "unlimited vacation" policy is payable to employees if they are laid off (HR is instructed to record the hours). This is one of the reasons many employers are simply leaving CA for "at will" states.
I was WFRed from SD site last month but did manage to get the max hours allotted under CA law for carry over unused vacation.
re: vacation... HP did away with accrued paid vacation last year and went with an "unlimited vacation" policy, in other words, no time saved up, no payment when you leave.
Also, if employees are offered to relocate to another HP campus but refuse and thus "voluntarily resign," they will not only wave their severance under WARN Act due to site closing, but they also will NOT quality for CA state unemployment.
To all those who are still at HP in San Diego...
If you have not already been laid off, most of you will be in 6-12 months and not by October 2025. Site closing layoffs do not happen at the last minute. About 3-6 months before the building is closed, the previous employees must vacate so that the furniture is moved out and a bunch of building inspections must take place. The new occupant also needs time to make changes and move in furniture.
Many of you in SD will be asked to relocate and will not get a severance if you refuse. It is a very convenient way to legally make sure that you have "voluntarily resigned." CA forces employers to also pay for unused vacation, so if you voluntarily resign that is another substantial saving for HP.
I confirmed this news with an HP colleague. Sad.
How HP upper management thinks: These American engineers are competent but too expensive. I’ll settle for less competence to save a few bucks.
"For example, we continue to optimize our location strategy with plans for additional site actions this year."
Which also means more offshoring. Singapore , India, and Korea are growing while the US is shrinking.
From the 5/29 earnings call transcript:
"Turning to our Future Ready transformation plan. We are on track to achieve our fiscal year end '24 goal of delivering a cumulative 70% of our year end '25 goal of gross annual run-rate structural cost savings of $1.6 billion.
We expect to achieve this by driving efficiencies in our core businesses. We are pleased with our progress in reducing our costs across Print and PS. We continue to see the benefits of initiatives we launched in prior quarters. For example, we continue to optimize our location strategy with plans for additional site actions this year.
Those asking for source: it was announced during a San Diego Town Hall. Several ex - colleagues confirmed (I left a few years ago, saw the painting in the wall). They haven’t post it in news as far as I know. My guess in the next investors call
Totally need a source for this. This would be something that would be on the news.
"San Diego closing Oct 2025"
Source?
I thought that they learned after the pandemic that working from home is ok (and really ideal) for many people. Not sure why they are building a giant site in Vancouver. They should save some money and let everyone who has a job that can be done from home work from home, permanently. Aren't we living in the 21st century? We have technology that allows it, and HP owns some of that technology. I don't understand why employers think that working from home is a bad thing these days...we're wasting so much electricity keeping sites up and running.
Where can I read about this? it is announced online somewhere ?
"Calling it now: the remaining US offices will be Houston, Fort Collins, and Palo Alto, where the latter only has two of the eight buildings currently and no HP employee is at Palo Alto except when there's an AEM then everyone and their mother shows up. "Look at the Palo Alto site! We're all here using this campus!""
Vancouver is building a huge new campus. HP in Vancouver is currently leasing from PeaceHealth. It is a pretty cr-ppy building to work at (very noisy, damp, and crowded).
https://www.columbian.com/news/2012/apr/07/peacehealths-new-home-in-clark-county-health-care/
The announced SD closure is just another episode of HP’s long-running reality show “Honey, I Shrunk The Company”.
Have you been to the Palo Alto, Boise, or Ft Collins sites lately? They’re friggin’ deserted compared to what they once were. NOT a good sign!
Calling it now: the remaining US offices will be Houston, Fort Collins, and Palo Alto, where the latter only has two of the eight buildings currently and no HP employee is at Palo Alto except when there's an AEM then everyone and their mother shows up. "Look at the Palo Alto site! We're all here using this campus!"
But back to my sympathies. It's really too bad. Sorry for those affected. I was laid off last year around this time. It's really sad the company is still making extreme decisions. But let's be clear: I'm scared for the people who work there. VPs and above can kiss my [Disney filter on] underside of the human anatomy.
Vancouver, for some odd reason, always seemed to have the power over San Diego. Even though it was San Diego people & products that took HP into the consumer/retail world. Lots of hate going on after that. Very sad that it's SD that's been on the chopping block for so long. Great people there. Glad I'm not there. Still have many friends from there.
As a former HP employee, I am, saddened by the closure. A great place to work for over two decades. They will be missed in San Diego.
"October 2025 is correct"
In that case, any word on when they are going to start relocating the existing employees to other sites? The layoffs were pretty bad last Fall in Rancho Bernardo, so I am not sure how many are actually left.
October 2025 is correct
"Oct 2024 and not 2025 right?"
That's what I am wondering too. Apple owns the Rancho Bernardo campus (bought it in 2022 for 440 million dollars) and needs to move in this year.
Oct 2024 and not 2025 right?
They are planning to put a PageWide development press in the new SD ink technology lab. PWI is a growing division, HP will continue to support.
What would happen to PWI? They can't work those web presses from home...
Sure glad I left HP when I did a number of years ago. SD and Boise used to be large, highly productive campuses, but now they’re nothing more than scorched earth. Don’t be surprised to see an announcement about Boise really soon.
HP continues its slow death.
“Yet another monument for the consequences of "Californification" - why would anyone pay double or triple for its employees?”
It comes down to knowledge and technical skill. The Palo Alto office isn’t going anywhere anytime soon and remains the company’s main HQ. I was hired from this location as a CW and get to work remotely alongside other CWs outsourced from India. My role involves reviewing and fixing their work and let me tell you that they make lots of errors. So it makes sense for HP to pay them less for what they are worth and to pay me more for what I am worth. In a nutshell the outsourced workers are field workers on the plantation and I’m the house worker who organizes the fruits of their labor and hands it over to some FTE that trades in the goods for $$$.