This phrase needs to be retired. Tom used it again in the townhall today, as he often does. We are not a family. We are not in this together. There is no reciprocal loyalty. You lay people off at every chance you can for the sake of expenses. It’s not “just us” when we don’t know if we will have a job beyond the next six months and when we keep saying goodbye to colleagues who were told they aren’t needed anymore. Stop pretending we are something that we are not.
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Their newest "quiet cutting" game is quietly force moving roles and the employees in those roles off Allstate's employment to the employment of the vendors. If you want to keep your job you agree to move to an employee of the vendor under their benefits (or lack thereof) and their lower PTO. If you refuse then you voluntarily quit and Allstate gets out of paying any severance. Slimy processes.
Another example of double -secret probation
Yep it’s true. The quiet cutting has been taking place every April and October the last few years. They have tried to keep it under wraps to unsuccessfully try to not affect morale as badly as it was affected in 2020. It’s enough to impact the expense ratio but small enough that it sorta can go under the radar. But people still find out. And it is not performance based. I know of a lot of exceptional employees who have been cut unfortunately.
@lzr+1sDsl5Mb troll is troll. There has been quiet cutting going on since the Dec 2020 "celebrate good times/Kool Gang" themed mass RIF done during a then unknown plague, which included everyone got to play tetris. Also a huge wealth of most expensive=some best producers left in the following Decembers when HR came up with plan to alter the pension (whats a pension?) making it a forced choice on these last few pensioneers (leave or lose it) & then after, hiring cheap no experience replacements for them. They only make books seem ok and hoodwink investors by CUTS, Allstate hasnt been able sell business in a minute (but I would bet they purchase a block of business in near future to say "look, policies in force have skyrocketed!").
Maybe it's not the phrase that needs to be retired. Maybe it's the people who use the phrase that need to retire. Well, not a need for them, but a need for you.
If you want to stay and advance, make sure to politic. Saves a lot of Director and above who can’t actually get results.
Allstate keeps the low performers and RIFs/gets rid of high performers. People who have no business getting a raise somehow get glowing reviews, while the people who actually do exceptional work have their reviews marked down by management who couldn't pick them out of a lineup (looking at you Courtney Welton). Nearly my entire AHB department had their reviews changed by upper management to "meets expectations" and got less than $1.00/hour raise. How insulting. The only time management takes notice is when someone quits and then they scramble trying to keep them. The money that they couldn't find for raises materializes when they want/need someone to stay. But at that point, the damage is done. Courtney decimated AHB and the people are hanging on by a thread. No one knows if they are going with the sale, being placed elsewhere in Allstate, or just flat out being let go. We've heard so many versions of what is happening, why would anyone stay with no job security? I imagine everyone in my department is about to jump ship. You can't double the workload of your employees, give them no clear plan for the months ahead and expect them to stay. You show them no loyalty, you get none in return. "Stay bonuses" were just a rumor for our department - we've heard many others involved with the sale have gotten them. It's like Allstate/AHB is TRYING to get their people to leave. Maybe so they don't have to pay severance?
The layoffs don’t look so bad because they are playing a swap game. India comes into a role at a lower cost, the person who was in the role is offered a position in another department of course at a lower band. But you know “at least nobody is losing their job”. They then count on the employee either not being able to afford the reduced pay or hate the new role and quit. Turnover looks better than layoffs to outsiders. I promise if you guys use the info we have at our disposal you’ll find everything you want to know. It’s out there all you have to do is look and you’ll find the documents. Also, Allstate is realizing how much money they are losing with a particular vendor and are currently trying to get out of the contract.
If Allstate truly laid off based on low performance and actual worth to the company there would be some substance and basis to it. But we all know most of those who would most deservingly be let go based on performance and pulling worth within the company....and we dare not let those groups go.
I disagree, Allstate is a family. Everyone is a cousin Eddie
Tom is just reading corporate script and jargon. Half the time I doubt he is sober enough to even know what he is reading. There is absolutely no Allstate family. The concept of such is laughable and ignorant.
@dnf+1sDsl5Mb You hit the nail on the head.
The last round of layoffs, several people who were worth more than a damn as employees were randomly handed their hats and told hit to the road solely to make numbers. That was it. It wasn't based on performance, or lack thereof. Management admitted that.
In every round of layoffs, people who consistently refuse to change the way they think or the way they work duck the RIF. Low performers, those who are not nor will ever be 'worth a damn' as employees, are passed from team to team to team because Allstate is too craven to actually deal with problems and instead just pass them from place to place. Both categories of people seem to survive round after round of layoffs.
And now, having sh-t canned all those decent employees who were 'worth a damn' we're trumpeting how cool we are because we're hiring people, flying 'people leaders' to in person summits and placing people internally. Many of those internal placements I'd suspect are the problems from somebody else's team. And we will no doubt have another round of layoffs 3Q of this when we need to save expenses and decide on another group of random expendables.
And the beat goes on.
Completely disagree with @lzr+1sDsl5Mb - a lot of good people were laid off because Allstate didn’t have the guts to actually fire the people needing to be fired (let alone doing the work to figure out who needed to be fired). A lot of babies thrown out with the bath water each time there have been layoffs.
You make it sound like there are mass layoffs going on throughout the company. There are a few here and there but nothing like 2020 anytime soon. Just relax and get back to work. If you are worth a damn as an employee, you can probably count on a long career here if that is what you desire. However, if you are in one of the useless overhead departments, always be looking behind you
When he made the reference to rosa parks and martin luther king….. i was so confused
I don't understand how we lay people off every single year but get on a townhall and talk about how we're doing all this hiring and have internal recruiters trying to place people inside the company.