Thread regarding Lumen Technologies layoffs

Final exit

I was one of those techs who wanted OUT, and was rejected, I quit, because my health was failing - with no severance package. I appealed to Kate & Kye in an email to reconsider a severance package - silence. Loved my 35+yr career in the industry, but Lymphoma has been bringing it to an end, and because of the cr-ppy insurance, my 401k is drained & I'll be paying off healthcare debt for years... with nothing but SSA. Severance package would have gone a long way to clear the debt.

I'm not mad, just sad I worked for a company who claims they are 'family oriented', 'work life balance', 'people centric' - blah, blah, blah ... until it really counts, silence. It's one of those thoughts, "I know all that HR talk is probably BS... but, yeah, it probably won't affect me, after all, I'm still enjoying doing what I do!"

The EOI / Severance was never for 'customer-facing employees', like field techs - I was told. Then, why offer it to us, why give us hope, what was the purpose of the query - a loyalty test? It's like those surveys, which never were anonymous, you can either lie -or- be honest, and face the wrath of your manager. Which I did a dozen years ago & haven't done one since, 'I'll swear under oath, I never said - if you EVER repeat a word of what I'm saying...' - my manager said, threatening me.

These people are heartless. What goes around, will eventually come around.
I am stunned though, the multitude of encouraging phone calls & emails from co-workers, he-l, I was just doing my job, being part of a team, supporting them - I loved it.
Management, HR, Kate & Kye ... as one former tech said (who said they persecuted after he left), "Lumen is evil, it was like working for the Devil himself, totally evil."

We like to think, "It'll never happen to me, somebody else, but, not me." Your health is partly dependent on the level of STRESS you allow. If you're trapped, like I was, by a mortgage & debts, but determined to make the best of it - enjoy it, like I did... they toll is still being taken on your body. Just a number, it's your login, memorize your number - you're a human resource, doing a pre-defined task, customer care is not your task, you're tasked with X, and easily replaced at a cheaper labor rate. (and they can't figure out why they're losing market share?)

There's a new wave coming, a parallel job market. Businesses built on merit & productivity, not DEI, not woke and imaginary diversity - they're looking for honest talent - are you looking for them? When a company gets this big & unresponsive to customers & think 'we're too big to fail' - the door is opening to the smaller, more nimble companies to pick off the best customers. The echo chamber is deceptive, it's not reality.

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Post ID: @OP+1s7NMr9O

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Your situation was created by your decision making abilities, or lack there of. Never quit a job unless you have another unless you’re financially set to retire, no need to blame the company for that decision.
In regards to Lumen as a company, I have lost a great deal of money on my shares, I do believe this is in direct relation to the new managements lack of ability to execute. I do not see a turn around any time in the future and should have sold my shares, that’s on me, live and learn.

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Post ID: @Faoe+1s7NMr9O

Best of luck my man. I started with this company learning from people like you. The ones who knew their "craft". And it was a craft 20 some years ago. The company cared more about the workers back then. My boss was a tech for 26 years. His boss was a tech for 18. My boss now spent 5 years managing a golf course. It's not about the "craft" anymore. It's about the numbers. Fudge the numbers, make the numbers, manipulate the numbers. Its not a job anymore its a game run by people who dont know anything about the job or what it takes. I've never met you and dont know who you are but you will be missed.

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Post ID: @bfpv+1s7NMr9O

Bring it back home and as a tenured employee treat your co workers well, its not a competition or advance to the front. It's life, live it and be kind. The company doesn't care but you can !

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Post ID: @aeay+1s7NMr9O

To the well wishers and critics, I really hope you can stay focused on the good stuff, technology & customers so Lumen can compete with the top tier in fiber based technology. I loved being on the 'bleeding edge of technology', out in the field, installing & turning up the newest transport gear, working with some great guys - knowing we were the competition ATT & VSZ were competing with. I knew I'd miss that the most.

Duke Oncologists told me, 'You'll have good days & bad days from the cancer treatments.' - and without going into details, all sorts of things I never expected from CTL (a rare Lymphoma of the skin that affects the blood). I look & feel like a wreck, and started apologizing to my co-worker(s) for my inability to carry the load like I once could. I was 'born to work' - loved to work, loved to build, even 'troubleshooted in my sleep' - you could say this was my dream job. I hung on as long as I could, I leave with the heavy heart. Cancer treatments are expensive - Duke has some of the best Oncologists, they've 'run out of bullets' to treat what I got & I've run out of money. I recently quit treatments, Lymphoma isn't fatal - it's the side effects that eventually do you in. I actually explained this to my manager, I'm too weak to work, the buy-out would have really helped clear some of my debts.

I do look back and already miss those wonderful years of competition in the industry, going head-to-head with VSZ & ATT on Network speed, Reliability & Robustness. We were true leaders, leveraging our fiber backbone, taking market share, creating a new customer base, because we were focused on the network & real customer care. We were BUILDING something new, big, better - building for the future. We had bragging rights, we were the best of the best. If your business needed/wanted internet speed, security & reliability, we were the top choice - maybe a little more expensive, but we guaranteed those 'data pipes' would deliver what the customer ordered. Those were the glory days of data transport, the voice stuff was sort of a side-hustle to us. We had a clear-cut vision of the future, becoming the biggest fiber optic backbone in the world - and we had the top tier minds at all levels, forging ahead. Who wouldn't love that, who wouldn't proudly say, "Yeah, I work for X company." I got asked several times, "How do I get a job at X company you work for?" I put myself through Ameritech school back in the '90s to get certification to get this job ... it was my dream job.

Just a couple optical rings I installed, turned up and delivered circuits on, Fujitsu 2400s, back in 2000 still carry traffic, remain. Back in those days, we field techs did everything, we were our own the NOC, so when things went wrong - we had to work together, scramble for a card, ride the fiber route looking for a squirrel chew, sweat it out in front of an anxious customer. But, we were more responsive, faster than VSZ or ATT, and the customers loved our SLA, we guaranteed we'd respond & be on-site in 2 or 4 hours. Slowly it all started changing, Customer Care, Leveraging the Backbone, Metrics, the crash kits (essential cards & local inventory), and local autonomy - changes. Customers started expressing their frustration with the NOC, slow response times, the auto-attendant maze, billing mistakes, prolonged outages, slowing data rates. We we're on the bleeding edge of technology, but, started acting like a little local ISP, chasing these tiny pipes, small stuff that requires a lot of work to install, years to pay off and loads of local tech support. We cheered when upper management said, we will NOT sell anything under 100meg, and the priority is Type 1, or 100% ON-NET, Type 2 was a huge no-no. "GOOD, we said, we're getting back on track!", it was energizing! The people who BUILT this company up, from the field to sales, the real visionaries, are ... where? What happened to 'Leveraging our Fiber Backbone?'

The last piece of transport gear I installed, for Lumen, I also installed a decade before - for a customer's network. 'They' carry more traffic than 'we' do. It use to be the other way around! Dark Fiber customers were unheard of, we sold Bandwidth, big pipes, not dark fiber. We LEVERAGED our fiber, for profitability & dominance in the industry. You wanted the best - come to us. We didn't compete with the local ISPs, we delivered bandwidth TO THEM, not dark fiber. Maybe it was desperation, financial distress, or the quick financial 'fix' that started the whole industry turning up-side down, we saw it coming & knew it probably would eventually make the whole telecom/data industry into a public utility like electric, water or sewer. A huge machine, with lots of arms & legs, kicking and waving moving slowly, unable to find a direction, cohesion & purpose.

Time to put it all behind me, my plane/train is coming - though I'm without a boarding schedule. God has given me a wonderful wife & 8 kids, a great job with the best of the best in the industry, it's hard to say bye - I wish I could name them here. A few nights ago, as I gazed up into the sky, I asked, "What's next, Lord?" I think the answer is to 'just live and leave this behind', you've got a family & family of friends from decades ago. I'll miss so many people, wish we could all keep in touch somehow - we had a lot of fun. I wasn't afraid to share my name, some will recognize me, I wish you all well, including detractors.

I just realized, I didn't leave a leading technology company, it left me.

Good Bye.

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Post ID: @4yzi+1s7NMr9O

Yeah man it is sad. I started at 97. Things were better backed in, especially in telecom because the people run in the business didn’t start their jobs in suits. They were the kind of folks that could relate to the guy out there working every day. I see a lot of weakness and spineless people here now everyone’s looking over their shoulder because someone’s out to get someone else’s job the field do their best to keep the network going and the customer happy go figure it ain’t gonna get any better

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Post ID: @3wwd+1s7NMr9O

Wish you nothing but the best. I came into Lumen last year and feel like I’m in an abusive relationship. This isn’t okay, this is not “normal”. I feel for everyone here and trying to find my next before I exit. I’m proud of your strength for just ending the toxic on your own. Take care of yourself and focus on you and your mental health coming out of this.

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Post ID: @3ahv+1s7NMr9O

The way I see it is the entire telecom industry has gone down the tubes. Service is getting worse, I get at least two or three calls a day that "its been down for three weeks" or "I keep getting passed around and around", I just have to be "numb" to this as there is absolutely nothing anyone can do at our level to really improve it. And they want us to take on some new services add expect to keep all of the stupid metrics up, it cant be done, well at least when trying to "ramp up" on a new device or service. I could get canned for just not hitting one lousy metric but all others are fine, well if you want to throw out a perfectly good tech. whose assisting other techs with new services and all that, well Ill just look my manager in the eye and say "ITS YOUR LOSS, SEE YOU IN HE-L"

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Post ID: @3nmm+1s7NMr9O

God bless hope your health improves .. so for those of that made negative comments on his post .. the train will come pull you out of the station then run over you to make sure your dead I don’t care if it’s Kate or whoever this place is evil from the start

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Post ID: @2yld+1s7NMr9O

Dare to Lead is a stupid waste of time and distraction. Leadership needs to be spending time fixing all the broken stuff and strategy not have leadership waste time on this nonsense. That book makes no damn sense and it’s common sense cr-p that you can one liner tik tok motivational reels.

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Post ID: @2spp+1s7NMr9O

Lol, dare to lead is working. Working for the broad that needed someone to pay her mortgage by buying her books. What better way to sell a bunch of books than to have her friend create a captive audience. And force that captive audience to buy her books. Then force that audience to talk about her books. Has anything improved since date to lead? No. Have a majority of people forced to be in a book club to learn how to…dare to lead….left the company? Yea, they have. So in a way you are correct. It’s forcing out the malcontents. Otherwise known as the people who knew how to do their job.

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Post ID: @2tuv+1s7NMr9O

DTL is working, farewell to all the malcontents.

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Post ID: @1qwm+1s7NMr9O

Maybe you should tell your pal KJ to drop the people first mentality then. And while you’re having a fireside chat with your pal KJ, maybe tell her to quit laundering the company money for her pal brene. You know, in business to make money and do what the board tells her to do.

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Post ID: @1ans+1s7NMr9O

reply to Bill Post ID: @?OP+1s7NMr9O

Wow that's some s-b story you have there. If I could send you a box of tissue I would free of charge. Any employee anywhere who thinks they come before shareholders, liens, and banks is just a fool. Lumen is a business, and business does not care about you, it cares about the business which means doing whatever to keep business going. The business only cares that you will help make the business more money. When you are not needed the business will happily close the door on your s-b story. It's not personal, it's just business. KJ is being paid lots lots of money to handle the business the way Board of Directors wants it to be handled. Lume is not unique in this regard. It would have been better for you to get let go then to quit, but you made your mistake by quitting. Did you have your exit interview and if so how did that go?

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Post ID: @1ysi+1s7NMr9O

That is why I stop busting my a-s for this company. They irresponsibly decide when to let go in batches and without much transparency. Kate is preaching this dare to lead BS and does not practice it.

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Post ID: @xjf+1s7NMr9O

I am so very sorry this happened. You were a hard working loyal employee and deserved so much better. This is not the same company we worked for. Unfortunately for everyone who loved their job, there’s a new sheriff in town. Best of luck to you, Bill.

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Post ID: @hpl+1s7NMr9O

Wow, you chose to quit because you didn't get free money because your position was needed. Quit your bellyaching, no sympathy from me. Good luck with a lawsuit, they'll laugh at you.

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Post ID: @kmk+1s7NMr9O

Horrible evil company

Is this what the cows feel like before going to sla-ghter

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Post ID: @zub+1s7NMr9O

I would not hire any legal team.
They will take your money something you don't have.
You'll never win something you don't control.
It's a normal layoffs every company goes through.
You volunteered to leave on your own.
How can you win with that as your defense 🤔

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Post ID: @ety+1s7NMr9O

It cant hurt to contact a workplace lawyer. Good luck man. I cant believe they denied you from the EOI.

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Post ID: @ero+1s7NMr9O

Sir with all respect that a long tenure! You should hire an attorney to help you, they get negotiate a severance/settlement package for you. I’m speaking from experience companies are NOT perfect and especially LUMEN. There will absolutely be something that your legal representation will and CAN use as leverage. Example retro pay for improper unpaid time worked over the years, and not to mention all the different forms of discrimination that everyone experiences at some point with 35 years you have a GOLD mine!! Good Luck!!

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