Thread regarding Centene Corp. layoffs

What determines your performance rating

I worked here for about 10 yrs as a people leader. I can tell you the determination of your performance rating is often established prior to the completion of you writing your performance review. For ratings above “meets” requires an explanation. It’s very rare if anyone in the organization receives a “significantly exceeds”.
As far as compensation, the final decision on compensation may be subject to changes made by upper management after the initial evaluation by people leaders. People leaders sometimes aren’t aware this happens. This lack of influence over the ratings and compensation can be challenging for people leaders who strive to recognize and reward their team members based on their performance and contributions. Unfortunately, that’s the corporate world!

Reposting this from @bpim+1r5SeN2h for info.

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: @2bxw+1rnQQ0Sv

Some fill it out others don’t. However can tell ya you’re only hurting yourself if you don’t want to perform tasks. The company knows they can find replacements for all of us so if you don’t wanna do the work then that’s on you. Also if you transfer supervisors and don’t fill in your review, new sup is resting on the little info they have on you. That can come bite you if you significantly exceeded in all areas but they only have performance and not your extra stuff to go off of. PL and other employees should be working together, not against each other.

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@3nie+1rnQQ0Sv

What's really lousy is you get to take the brunt of your VP leadership's and Centene's decisions, despite trying so hard to compensate your staff for a job well done. That's not fair to either of you.

I have to wonder how legal all of this is. Allowing staff to believe that they can exceed expectations and shoot for a raise, when the reality is, those are secretly removed as an option. Just another bait and switch that Centene is so good at.

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Post ID: @3oez+1rnQQ0Sv

People Leader 12 years here and agree with what is being shared. We are told only one of our staff may exceed despite having more then one. We are given a budget for raises and bonuses. VPs came back and change what we requested. This year four of my staff's raises and bonuses were reduced. When I pushed back it fell into the abyss.We force our staff to have these lofty goals but no matter what they do or how we rate our staff, the decisions are already made. I also had to tell one of my staff this year she would get no raise as she was capped. She has reported to me for 7 years and is a rock star. This is so wrong and despite all my inquiries I was told to let it go. I however cannot let go the tears my staff was overcomed with when I delivered this message. The spirit is gone from this amazing employee and I know we will loose here eventually. As a good leader however I have my HR talking points. You are valued!!!!

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Post ID: @3nie+1rnQQ0Sv

I didn't even know you didn't have to fill out a performance review!!! I asked once if goals tied to performance were a mandatory thing and what would happen if I didn't want to do it and my PL was none too happy about that. Guess I'm giving other employees ideas (even though most do it because it's implied it's mandatory and not because they genuinely want to do it) and I can only imagine a PL will look bad to their boss if all of a sudden employees stop cooperating. I guess we'd become the trouble stirring team. But now I'm determined to no longer complete it for as long as I'm still here.

If a PL can't adequately compensate me because ultimately they have no real say in the end, then my raise would really be no different regardless of whether I exceed or meet. And I come from a small team so if my PL isn't even aware of their team's accomplishments and short comings without us having to spell it out in a performance review, then what does that say about the PLs. You know your staff well enough to determine whether they deserve a raise or not without them having to jump through extra hoops even if in the end you can't control the amount.

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Post ID: @2bxw+1rnQQ0Sv

Yeah. It’s disheartening. There’s no official forced distribution, but it’s still applied at VP and above levels behind closed doors.

As long as you let your people leader assign loosely defined goals, it’s easy for them to argue you were only a “meets” vs exceeds.

However forcing them to make your goals truly SMART could backfire with unrealistic expectations (which leads you to a below meets rating)

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Post ID: @2xlx+1rnQQ0Sv

This is the exact reason I never fill out my performance review. It isn't worth the effort. I wouldn't show up to the performance review if I didn't have to, either. (Yes, I do get good reviews every year.)

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Post ID: @2mui+1rnQQ0Sv

So even if a PL can give an employee more than meets all it takes is a VP to knock it down? well in that case there is no true incentive to working your butt off to exceeds or doing more than the bare minimum huh? "Thats the corporate world for ya!" Glad i stopped drinking the kool aid a long time ago.

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Post ID: @2ime+1rnQQ0Sv

"That’s the corporate world" that's your final thought on this?
Astounding leadership motto: Can't beet um, Join um. Do you really want to be a people leader in a company like Centene?

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Post ID: @1cct+1rnQQ0Sv

Also a PL posting to support the OP. This is accurate.

Giving anything above a “meets” requires solid evidence.

Even if I give you an “exceeds” rating, it can easily get knocked down to “meets” during calibration meetings.

As for comp, I had given individuals on my team MORE than what they ultimately received. However, I was last to know.

CompView gets locked down to VP/RVP and often individual PLs can’t see what their leadership changes until the statements come out. In this case, they reduced the merit and bonus #’s I entered.

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