Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Question: How Did Intel Foundry Managed to Lose $7B?

It only makes chips for Intel, right?

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How is 2024 a peak? What’s going to be different in 2025?

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Post ID: @3zrt+1rRe59Ft

The $7B loss was for 2023. We're going to lose even more money this year.

"The foundry business had a $7 billion operating loss last year, translating to a negative 37% operating margin. Intel (INTC) expects losses for the segment to peak this year. "

https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20240405343/intels-stock-is-having-its-worst-week-since-2020-is-the-selloff-justified

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Post ID: @2rcm+1rRe59Ft

An EUV scanner is about $300 million each incl install, supplier contract etc. do the maths 10 of these will cost 3 billion, don’t forget all the other tools

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Post ID: @2xbw+1rRe59Ft

The short answer... gross TMG inefficiencies that were hidden by decades of mis-information, mis-management, and lies by Intel Finance.

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Post ID: @1vnd+1rRe59Ft

$7B operating loss
https://www.reuters.com/technology/intel-discloses-financials-foundry-business-2024-04-02/

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Post ID: @1atd+1rRe59Ft

It is because me and my coworkers who are part of IFS and not working since last 6 months. Our team moved to IFS as part of CPM and we don't have work since last 6 months. Management has no idea what work to assign.

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Post ID: @hje+1rRe59Ft

In foundry- two key metrics : Utilization and Yield. In intel the utilization is very low (TSMC is operating at 80%) and around 60% yield. intel is half of what TSMC does. Then go fugure

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Post ID: @qxd+1rRe59Ft

Yet the US Gubment is handing billions of TAX PAYER dollar$ over to Intel in the interest of national security.

We're so sc--wed.

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Post ID: @qdq+1rRe59Ft

because we outsourced 30% to external fabs, instead of eating our own dog food. Then again, we'd have no actual products without TSMC.

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/intel-foundry-unit-loses-dollar7-billion-in-2023-company-outsources-30-of-its-production-to-tsmc-others

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Post ID: @iju+1rRe59Ft

More than five years ago, AMD dumped its Global foundry to save its faith from bankruptcy and rising from a $3 stock worth company to $200 stock worth company. Today, more than five years later, Intel just make a smart move to start its Intel foundry to go back into bankruptcy because it doesn’t like AMD.

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Post ID: @bzp+1rRe59Ft

A lot of bloat

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Post ID: @bif+1rRe59Ft

Intel manufacturing has grown to be expensive relative to peers. There's no mystery to it... just the first time we are all seeing the number.

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