Joan Harvey and Dave Smith announced their retirement today, and it’s not even 3 months since it was announced they were accepting the leadership positions in Evicore.
What is up with that? It feels like there is more to this.
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Can’t wait to see who fills the void! Joan is an incredible leader, tough shoes to fill , and I’m sad for the organization losing her. If it’s transformation anything like Evernorth behavioral, it’s a “sinking ship” like the titanic …thanks to the leadership over there…. trying to partner with those newer strategy directors is a joke. I lost some amazing partners to work with and deliver value and now stuck in a void! Hopefully Eva wakes up!
At the Evernorth Care Management and Express Scripts Town Hall - Dave Smith appears to confirm he is retiring and has plans to give back to the community, along with his wife (more details in the recording). It wasn't clear to me whether Joan is retiring, but she said she will be focusing on her family as well as some personal health issues.
They were obviously both fired. The “retirement” thing is just a smokescreen. For those who don’t know, they were NOT in the Medicare business. They were both in Evernorth - Joan Harvey ran the Care Coordination business and Dave Smith ran eviCore (for a long time). To be fair, those businesses have been a disaster the last 3+ years so it wasn’t a big surprise.
But what I don’t get is why some former leaders of other failed businesses (like Medicare and IFP) have been promoted to top executive positions recently. Accountability isn’t consistent these days at Cigna.
In my opinion, we are better prepared for this audit vs the last one. We did good on our last Audit, but this one we are even more prepared. I doubt we will fail it.
I mean if your name is big enough that there is a company wide ORG change and two major people in that org are leaving in the midst of a CMS audit? When Cigna fails the audit… that’ll be a tarnish on leaderships names.
I keep wondering if it will be a penalty or a sanction. I know it won’t be a pass.
This makes me thing there's more to come. Obviously those at the top are first in the know and best positioned to get the he-l out of dodge before the storm hits. I suspect something may be coming down the pike.
I heard a year ago that there were big changes coming to clinical …the processes, the org structure, etc. They are finally rolling out their plans. Expect layoffs.
Joan and Jayne were strong leaders. I noted they are former longtime Cigna employees reporting to an ESI/Evernorth leader. Who bought who because I can’t tell anymore. This is why the corporate culture is changed for the worse.
I feel bad for anyone working for a company that gets bought Cigna. Sure a lot of people make some money, but then the merger starts and if the company is good it ends up wondering WTF happened when they absorb into Cigna culture. Don’t blame them for bailing and getting out while they can. Maybe even part of their contract they couldn’t leave until X amount of time after merger.
This is kind of what happened to Medicare. Our leaders "chose to purse opportunity outside the company". Next thing you know we experienced layoffs then sold off.
It’s definitely giving jump ship before it sinks vibes.
It is real, look up org announcements on Iris
I did not hear this, would think it would be more widely broadcast if true
Maybe they kept pushing good ideas like “increase headcount” and “treat employees better”. Or maybe they pushed back on ELT about ethically dubious initiatives like AI claim denial. In the end it is just more chaos at a company that seems to be unraveling.
Maybe even the higher up’s are tired of the culture change.
You read my mind
Who were there people and why were they important?