Thread regarding Cigna layoffs

HCSC Locations & WAH

I was on the page for HCSC and found some troublesome info. Does anyone know if it's true that they only hire for MA in 5 states? Here's the link to that post. If accurate, what are the states?
https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@ucrs+1pVBwp0c

It also appears that they are pushing hard and enforcing RTO based on several posts on the HCSC page. One specifically said they are tracking badge swipes. Any info on their WAH policy?

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You’re right about the PTO. Their PTO starts at 10 days a year for new employees. Cigna starts at 18. I would be curious how much and to what end it increased at HCSC, but I’ve yet to find that out.

At the beginning, it would be a trade off. But unless the incremental changes are great and frequent as you stay longer at HCSC, it won’t match CIGNA.

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Post ID: @2mqk+1qTwb9JB

I appreciate the extra holidays I would get at HCSC but no way they are giving the amount of annual PTO I have at Cigna. What was Chris DeRosa saying about PTO? That any you haven't taken will be cashed out to you? I assume that means 56 hours or less?

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Post ID: @2fcy+1qTwb9JB

Their 401k match can easily be found on their website. It is not equal to that of Cigna.

We all have anecdotal stories about our friends and family members working for similar organizations. I have a friend who left Cigna for BCBS and went back to Cigna after a while because the pay was lower, the raises weren’t as robust, etc.

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Post ID: @2zso+1qTwb9JB

I worked for a non-profit health plan before and still have friends who work there. They actually pay about the same, but have a better 401K, provided cost of living increase, and Pension. The problem with them is that their tends to be little room for growth as they are smaller.

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Post ID: @dag+1qTwb9JB

There’s no way that their staff is being paid at the rate we are. They are a not for profit. Yes, salaries will be reduced.

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Post ID: @buo+1qTwb9JB

I think the comment on salary reductions is interesting. The FAQ said our salaries are guaranteed for a year if we move to HCSC. However, after a year they are not. Do you think they will realign everyone to HCSC job titles and pay scales? Scary thought if that might involve a serious reduction in pay.

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For WAH case management, I think this could be a non-issue. Reading their open case management positions , it seems that field visits are required. If, as a business, you are doing business in NC and require field visits, it makes sense that you will have staff there. It doesn’t make sense to have an NC office, though, because there aren’t enough employees to support that. I think they will have to be flexible - either not require home visits and hire employees who live within close distance to their sites, or hire WAH staff in the areas they require field visits.

Sadly, there are some CM staff who do not reside in an area we service, and they also don’t live near an office. These CM staff will probably be the first to go.

Frontline staff with largely be retained as long as they fall within these parameters. But after the first year, there will be salary reductions. Jobs that don’t have direct customer contact is a different story.

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Post ID: @xhd+1qTwb9JB

HCSC has another subsidiary called Luminare Health that offers remote positions. You’ll find them within their open jobs.

Sadly they are pushing the RTO. Going as far as tracking badge swipes. Non compliance will be addressed.

Unless someone can find out when cigna MA contracts expire from CMS. I imagine HCSC will operate outside their current 5 states. TX IL MT NM OK

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Post ID: @pyy+1qTwb9JB

This makes sense BEFORE the MA sale. Now that they will purchase Cigna MA, they are expanding into new markets so it won't be sustainable to only narrowly focus on hiring in 5 states.

I imagine return to office will be a thing for former Cigna Staff who happen to live near a current HCSC office or one of the few offices that transfers over from Cigna to HCSC (most likely Nashville). All other employees outside of these areas will most likely remain WFH.

There will a honeymoon moment after the sale where they will support Cigna Medicare staff to work from home outside of these areas. However I do foresee some sort of change in the future beyond.

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Post ID: @rdh+1qTwb9JB

I am sure once the sale is over they will be prepared to offer WAH, this will be the first time they will be a nationwide plan

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