Thread regarding Cigna layoffs

Cigna (+interesting things) Layoffs, customers, insights

This thread is to help people and Cigna if action needs to be taken. More will be coming.

PLEASE REPLY -- it matters since there in no way to communicate up and get the best Cigna has to offer involved.

FIRST POST --
This discussion thread is designed as a proactive measure to ensure both member satisfaction and retention for our business. We will delve into various topics, providing insights and initiating action where necessary. So the post and replies will help those that need to take actions (those impacted and Cigna leadership)

Member and Company Retention Risks

We're currently pinpointing two primary risk factors that could impact our retention and new biz acquisition rates:

Shifts in business model dynamics.
Evolving customer beliefs and behaviors.
Recent market intelligence highlights a heightened sensitivity among potential and current customers to global events, notably the conflict in Europe. There's a growing concern regarding the protection of healthcare information. Approximately 40% of consumers in key states have expressed reservations about engaging with companies that share sensitive data or conduct business with entities that partner with Russia or China—a significant attitude shift from just two years ago. Alarmingly, 13-17% would outright refuse business relations upon learning of such practices. We must assess the business implications of potentially losing 7% of our market share. And competitor and those selling against Cigna could use this information in the acquisition of customers.

Geopolitical Considerations and Data Security -- it matters now to people

Our decision to relocate algorithmic and analytical functions to India, amid its recent induction into BRICS and ongoing collaborations with Russia and China, demands careful scrutiny. The Indian market has witnessed a record number of data breaches this past year, underscoring the need for robust data security measures. With integration with Russia and China including networking infrastructure security has significantly decreased over the last 2 years. Lower standards and very low reporting on breaches from India workers and companies is a top risk. This is a top risk in a number of surveys. People.

Organizational Health and Talent Retention

Furthermore, an internal survey reflects an organizational flux, with a sample of employees reporting an average of more than one supervisor per year. This rate of change is concerning and may point to deeper structural issues. 9 people outside of operations were contacted. All reported having an average of 1 new boss every year. One person with 7 years employment had 9 bosses. This appears to be typical in a large part of the organization. The reorgs are repeating this same pattern.

Additionally, a survey among our non-technical Directors/Sr Directors outside of operations revealed a knowledge gap in understanding key technology concepts, such as and basic system questions and basic ML capabilities. 9 out 11 non-technical and operation directors did not have entry level (tech company knowledge). Yet, they all work in the technology solution space and decide who to hire, promote and fire. Frankly, none of these people could get past an entry level interview at a tech company. Why does leadership not fix this? We'll get into the tech side in another post -- there are basic things that will not be fixed with moving work to India and results will not change enough.

In the upcoming posts, we will explore the necessity of retaining top talent and the company's approach to harnessing the skills of exceptionally gifted individuals. There are very talented (not a lot) that can help and have the experience. But no way to communicate up and out of their areas -- zero. If this were a start-up, Cigna would not even get to the first experiment. We'll also delve into the specifics of our workforce strategy, including the objective to streamline operations by 25%. It is not hard, but seriously.

The organization is broken both on the technology and business side. We'll get into more. Including gross bias is large parts of the org.

We appreciate the insights from informed insiders. It appears non-disclosure agreements are not fully containing information leaks. Yes, the number of reductions and planned reductions have been suggested. Stay tuned for detailed discussions on these critical points.

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Post ID: @OP+1qR2av3l

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I came to Cigna from a smaller company and was surprised to witness how little communication there is with peers in other regions, or in the same region but in other departments. CT and TX might have the same goal but each is creating their own process and reinventing their own wheels. A little too much of "not my problem" and working in silos. I like to look at the big picture and it's difficult to do so when everyone has such a narrow focus. It's inefficient and unfortunate.

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Post ID: @5kha+1qR2av3l

I posted last and I meant to say a lot of management IS NOT talented.

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Post ID: @1uyy+1qR2av3l

I would love to read the responses. Bottom line, a lot of management is talented. Maybe they were talented at some point, but many of the teams they manage has outgrown them in terms of skills and knowledge. This is even more so for supervisor level employees. But no one moves. Why? Because those jobs are sweet. They do very little except push papers and attend countless meetings each week. So the talented individuals have no where to go. It’s a problem if you want growth for the company.

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Post ID: @1aif+1qR2av3l

Very accurate. It’s stay in your lane mentality (aka let’s pretend to collaborate)and unless you’re part of the clique or at least showing deference to them, you will be labeled as a disturbance. I have seen and experienced passive aggressive plays to frustrate, intimidate and scare with hopes that those moves push people out. Save your money, prioritize your mental health and have an exit plan in case you are cut.

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Post ID: @1xei+1qR2av3l

What Cigna taught me is what you know doesn’t matter. I have a masters in business analytics and understand machine learning and data analysis, trend lines, regression. I tried for years to get some kind of exposure to data analysis at Cigna but it what getting the education did is put a target on my back and the more I show I know about data, the farther I am removed from it. This company is like all the others because people will always be people. IFP is a total nightmare when it comes to operations, your skills will be smashed and covered up till you disappear if managers don’t like you and if you go to HR you will get investigated NOT the org. It’s a total Lark. This read was interesting to be because they don’t support talent, they support the folks they can control. They don’t want thinkers they want people to hold up the house of cards. Layoffs have been ongoing for the last two years, and what is different now if high level folks are being asked to leave which I say cheers, they needed to clean house and I hope it continues. There are people still there who literally reported I was on a totally different product so they could install somebody they liked more than me. Anyway, I say all this because you will not win. You will be what they want you to be and if you don’t comply you will be abused until you quit, get fired, or shut up. I shut up and stopped saying what I wanted to do and what my hopes, goals, and dreams (lol dreams) are. I just clock in push around my emails and hope for the best. Sn---h the paycheck because if you complain, the first thing they’ll say is, why don’t you just get another job. Life isn’t that simple, and if you think it is, then your blinded by your own privilege.

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Post ID: @1hqm+1qR2av3l

So much offshoring on the way.

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Post ID: @1xjx+1qR2av3l

Wow. Interesting read. I just finished my master's capstone. We conducted an analysis in the healthcare space of risks to changed customer behavior before and after covid. The unusual writeup is not too far off.

I am sure leadership would not want people talking about this. I sounds like someone that cares.

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Post ID: @xtq+1qR2av3l

I am so confused after reading this... are we being punk'd?

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Post ID: @ico+1qR2av3l

What’s this sh-t?

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Post ID: @iuh+1qR2av3l

Where is this coming from?

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Post ID: @xul+1qR2av3l

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