As a Medicare employee myself, this is something I've actually been looking forward to. I know of others who feel different. What is your thoughts on this potential sale?
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David Cordani has out right lied to us all from the start of the “rumors”. He knew good and well what was going on and held all of those town hall meeting to clear up the so called rumors. He LIED to our face, time and time again to keep any of us from leaving Cigna during the sell of the company.
I have been with Cigna for 6 years and have never worked anywhere as a nurse that gaslights its employees the way this company does.
HR has locked the job transfers from MA to commercial so none of us can save our jobs, that should tell you all you need to know.
HR also claims they do not know the comparison of pay, benefits, PTO of the new company, which I find hard to believe.. another lie I assume.
Cigna claims to be transparent company, well I think it’s about time for some of that TRANSPARENCY for their employees and not just upper management 🤬🤬🤬
https://newsroom.thecignagroup.com/2024-01-31-The-Cigna-Group-to-Sell-Medicare-Businesses-and-CareAllies-to-Health-Care-Service-Corporation-HCSC
Cigna took years to integrate HealthSpring into the company at large. They just finally changed plan names from Cigna-HealthSpring to Cigna this plan year. When Cigna sold its Medicaid business, the transition took about one year and Molina only kept customer-facing employees like customer service, nurses, health services, etc.
All that to say, whether within Cigna or elsewhere, start looking. There are no guarantees. Then again, are there ever?
So you mean that HCSC would likely have overlap in roles and expertise with their MA team, whereas when Cigna bought HS it was the entire thing. Less overlap right away, so less chance for layoffs.
The difference between HealthSpring and HCSC is that Cigna acquired the entire HealthSpring company. HCSC would only be buying the MA line of business. For me, it's that ambiguity that breeds insecurity.
Agree, some HS employees just recently got an Cigna email address... the fact is that what will be will be. We can all have a knee jerk reaction or sit and wait. I am choosing the latter. We can't change the outcome of a sale and no amount of speculation or worry will impact what happens. Of course I would want to know when a deal was reached, but likely it would be a year or more before there would be any immediate impact to any MA employees. Especially since DOJ approval would be required.
If HCSC does purchase MA from Cigna, I would expect it would take years to integrate all of the systems/data. Look at how long it took Cigna once they bought Healthspring. I'm sure all the Healthspring folks wondered if they would be let go immediately, but many are still around to this day.
Context of answer please? Or do you just want to elevate anxiety in the thousands of folks who visit this site? You can't just say something like that without something to back it up. Really?
To previous comment, do you know this for certain or you’re inferring?
It's definitely been sold.
HCSC is a big proponent of having their case management folks in the field. I think that’s something that Medicare CM employees are overlooking. Because the markets they will gain are outside of areas where HCSC has offices, and it wouldn’t make sense to create an office in many of these areas, at least a lot of CM will have to remain remote. However, you’ll be making home visits again.
So I hear HCSC is not remote friendly from other posts around here, but when peeking into some of HCSC reviews / employee forums, it looks like they still do have remote employees. IF a purchase happens, I believe that areas with high concentration of Medicare employees that also happens to have a Physical Cigna office (I'm looking at you Nashville) would all migrate over. I would bet HCSC would expect these employees to be in office. Some Medicare employees who happen to be near areas where HCSC currently has an office (Midwest area's) I would also expect HCSC to require employees to be in the office. However for the many other Medicare employees scattered all over the US in area's where HCSC and Cigna Medicare doesn't have any physical offices, I would expect these employees to remain remote.
I am only speculating here, but as for employee health insurance, people outside of HCSC areas, I would expect them to have their local BCBS. Example an Alabama remote employee would have HCSC health insurance, but access to BCBS AL market providers.
For those who want to go forward with a new organization, I hope they have the opportunities. Personally, I hope to be let go. Cigna MA has been the most unpleasant work environment and I would benefit from moving on if the situation presented itself.
I’m not really thinking or trying to imply that HCSC will be a utopia culture that embraces remote work, but sometimes people have things going on where riding the wave might be the better option at this point in time instead of clawing their way into a different job. This is unfortunately how life in corporate America goes.
Anyone who thinks HCSC would be different is living in a fantasy land. They are NOT fans of remote work - they didn’t wait 2 years for RTO. It was 9 months to a year. You will be gaslighted there just like you are at Cigna. That is “corporate” life for those not in leadership.
To put it simply, in this market, if we get sold and I can somehow stay remote, great I am staying. That is my top priority.
I’m casually applying to roles, but hesitant to immediately jump ship if this ends up being a long term transition. I’m quite conflicted and not sure what the best course of action is. I’m looking for a better career opportunity if I can find one, but not desperate to leave.
At first, I was anxious, worried, upset. But now I would like a clear answer and I’m ready to embrace the opportunities of a new company or hope Brian brings change as CEO of MA. From FOW to being possibly sold, I feel betrayed as an employee. I understand things change for remote work, but when I’m being told to tell my employees there will be a ping pong tournament and they should be happy to return to the office, that doesn’t sit right with me. Everyone who was responded before me is spot on with how I feel and how much of my team feels.
If this happens, I can say I've had the opportunity to work with Commercial, Evicore, and Express Scripts employees. If we were sold off... I would miss them as I have genuine learned a lot from them. I have working relationships with several people outside of Medicare. At the same time I would welcome the change and purposefully explore where I fit in this change and how I can grow. I admit I have not been too happy with the direction Cigna (especially Cordani) has been going and I see this as a new opportunity to restart. Overall I am conflicted with this, I kinda want it and I kinda don't. One thing I am sure of, I am not happy being lied to, hired as a remote employee and told years later that I need to potentially go into the office to "better serve our customers". This is a slap in the face.
Would anything really change if MA was sold? With HS some Sr. Leadership left, but Cigna didn't integrate HS for a while was my understanding. So, what will really change? Honestly asking.
I hate saying goodbye, but if this happens... GOODBYE!
If this sale happens, I'll be happy just at the thought of being separated from Cordani. Hopefully HCSC proves to be a better employer. Cigna can do better but better and I also feel disappointed that they never fully met their Medicare goal. My team was ready for a sharp increase, but the promised growth was never delivered to us. Now I lost several good co-workers due to poor leadership.