Does XOM attempt to keep you if you have a new job offer in hand but are currently employed at XOM? Do they counter or is better to just cut and run after posting notice? Salary treatment announced Nov/Dec timeframe right? Thanks
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Good points all around. Seems like the winning move is to inform them you are resigning and then nope out of the there. If they try to counter politely hear them out, but turn it down anyway to make sure you get that final two weeks of paycheck in the bank.
In my entire career of nearly 20 years and personally knowing at least a few dozen people who have resigned, I have heard of exactly one receive a counter offer, and they were in a very specialized Upstream job family with a small number of people that was already recently hit hard from layoffs/PIPs in 2019-2020. They declined the counter.
Never seen or accept a counter. You must be quite young
Go ahead and ask. If You are into career su----e, that is. And why in earth would you want to swim in that toxic cesspool of a snake pit?
@3bit+1przIuNh Not a troll just early career
Question is why would you want to stay here? If you have another offer then run as fast as you can and don’t look back. Either you are a troll or very young in your career in xoms dumpster fire.
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I don’t think @1itz+1przIuNh is saying not to move, but to factor in job change timing risk when deciding what to do
Here is another thought OP. With all the consolidation happening, you should be careful with the risk of leaving only to have your offer evaporate if the company you’re leaving for gets bought. Sometimes offers get rescinded. Another risk is if you leave XOM only to have XOM buy the company you leave for (PIP target down the line). Don’t get yourself in a situation where you find yourself unemployed in this economy.
Any counter offer would just be very local by people that know you and value you. No company wide policy to counter.
Alternatively I have seen people leave then return 5 years later at a much higher CL.
Very rare. However, you’ve already signaled disloyalty. Never discount pettiness.
@1rmt Money is the only reason to show up to work. Full stop.
If you disagree then decline your salary. I’m sure EM would happily oblige.
Why would we counter? We want you to leave
I haven’t heard of Exxon giving counter offers. I think you will likely be next year’s tribute…
If they really want to keep you, it’s possible to advance an off-cycle raise (5% in US, unless promos increases grow this year). They can also give you indication of raise in next year if it’s close enough to the next year and with HR approval.
Never allow money to be the #1 guiding principle in any negotiation. You will lose if money is #1.
OP, this is a terrible idea. Do not, I repeat, do not try to get a counter offer at Exxon EVER. Just turn in your two week notice and leave. If for whatever reason, your supervisor gives you a counteroffer there'll be retaliation later on. Exxon will immediately start looking for a replacement and as soon as they find someone you'll be dropped to NSI and you won't pass the PIP. Do yourself a favor and just leave. Also remember that Darren doesn't want you here.
If you made a decision to leave then leave. You did it for a reason and if you stay you will always be viewed as a loser. I have seen it way too many times where a preson stays and nothing ever improves. You got an offer for a reason so take it and move on.
Makes perfect sense. Better to just inform them and bounce (walked out or 2 weeks of xfer) . Hanging around after a counter puts a PIP target on you. Hidden perk of hot desking is there is no desk / office to stealthily empty out / bring home slowly to avoid suspicion. There is no long term vision anymore and this will be a straight numbers decision. Thanks again for inspiring and motivating/ caring for others/ creating clarity
@OP Seeking a counter-offer in any scenario is a terrible idea.
All it does is tip off your boss that you’re a flight-risk. Best case is they offer you the bare minimum so that you don’t jump before they can get someone to replace you. Once that happens, you’ll be put on a PIP and terminated.
My advice is to take the offer if it’s better than what you’re currently getting from EM.
No counter offers that I’ve ever heard of. They might be able to unofficially tell you what your raise will be come January but that’s about it. Exxon is a very large corporation and any individual is replaceable. Once your supervisor knows you’re considering another offer, it will most likely not be good for your career and best just to either resign or not say anything.