Thread regarding Centene Corp. layoffs

Interesting RE: Warn Notice

Former Workers Sue UnitedHealth, Seeking Class Action for Violating Layoff Laws

Two former UnitedHealth workers are suing the Minnetonka, Minn.-based payer, saying it violated state and federal labor laws. In a suit filed Oct. 30 in U.S. District Court for the Northern California district in San Francisco, their lawyers charge UnitedHealth, Optum Services Health and Optum Care of trying to trick laid-off workers into signing liability waivers in exchange for severance pay that amounted to less money than they would get under the labor laws. Further, UnitedHealth did not file WARN notices informing workers or local government of the upcoming layoffs, the suit alleges. The workers are represented by the Alexander, Morrison and Fehr law firm in Los Angeles.

“The defendants, like so many others who have recently conducted similar mass layoffs, are attempting to skirt the requirements of the WARN act and their obligation to pay 60 days' wages,” the plaintiffs' lawyers charge in court documents. “Defendants have assumed that the state and federal WARN Acts do not apply to them despite laying off more than 1,000 workers nationwide and approximately 700 workers in California alone.”

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Your employer is Centene - not California Health and Wellness or whatever health insurance you process or hospital you work for - they employ over 50,000 employees ...period. Not sure how they can get away with saying that they only have 100 employees in Iowa (hypothetically) when they are the centralized business entity regardless of your geographical location or office size (say 50 people). But I am just speculating. It doesn't matter at this point anyhow they have shown their true colors ten fold.

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I looked up my state's law and it says WARN is required only if there are 100 or more employees at a single location, and my state doesn't have enough employees to make me believe that many got laid off at one time. I'm not sure about other states, but I haven't seen anyone mention that technicality before. I'm also not clear on if those considered "shared services" are considered as working from this state's location or working from St. Louis. That makes me think they can be even more sneaky with this lack of notification.

Side note, it says "60 days", not 60 business days. This generally means calendar days.

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Post ID: @1svi+1pnpuMW5

I hope the people at Anthem (now some elevance or something name change like that) look in a lawsuit!

Many are given a supplemental income and not a severance. They have to apply for unemployment and then Anthem will supplement the unemployment check up to the amount the person would normally be paid weekly/biweekly.

Since they are only getting a supplement to their unemployment, if they find a new job and unemployment ends then the supplement ends (they will get a % of the rest of what they would of received in a lump sum.) And of course there are time limits to how long the supplement will even be paid.

So the company is having the state kick in the unemployment (saving the company $ by not having to pay the full paycheck) and then the company is saving money if ppl find new jobs right away.

I mean it's super smart on the company's part, but super super shady!

I am not sure what states they are doing this in, I can't imagine all states would even allow it!

You know how many people don't jump ship when they hear layoffs are about to happen. They don't jump bc they know more people are keeping a job than losing and if they have been with a company long enough the severance will get them through. If "supplemental income" becomes a real thing, no way man people will not wait around. They will be going elsewhere!

I don't know maybe others had heard about this in the past and it's not a shock to them, but I never had! And I was appalled!

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Post ID: @1stc+1pnpuMW5

Did anyone notice that with all the layoffs at Centene, non were Cognizant staff, most of which are in the Philippines? I thought Federal funds like Medicare and Medicaid were not to go outside the US. This is aweful!

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But did you actually work 60 days? WORKING days from your separation notification date? Not calendar days because you would not include days the company would not requires you to work - like Saturday and Sunday. So if I was notified today 11/2 my last working day should actually be January 25 - working/business days. Not sure why that would not apply here. Oct 2 would be Dec 22. Not saying that is how it works - just an observation that may require some legal consult.

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Post ID: @1rzk+1pnpuMW5

Hummmm… sounds pretty familiar. Centene did not post on the WARN site. I imagine that is why we worked exactly 60 days from notification.

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