Thread regarding Allstate Corp. layoffs

Progressive as a template - it can be done

Out of little ole Mayfield Village, Ohio a group of actual operational experts are breaking the industry trend. Progressive, with their clear strategy and generationally talented CEO, are posting phenomenal results.

Key differences between PGR and ALL…

  • Progressive had to scrape and claw their way to near the top. Allstate floated and coasted there. Hence the numerous layers of fat, bloat, and an inability to execute in this climate. We are being ground by iron right now - the question is : are we being sharpened? Seems our soft alloy is being simply reduced.
  • Tricia G. Is paid a fraction of what Tom Wilson makes in terms of salary. The board should be ashamed. In fact, nearly every exec (Tom’s DRG) makes more than Tricia. Is the exec team here to execute or to create great wealth for themselves? This matters. The exec team at Progressive are ruthlessly focused on data, results and challenging themselves. Can we say the same about our leadership?
  • Progressive has a clear strategy they spent time and effort to define and refine. Most importantly they’ve painstakingly connected it to every single business unit. Sam’s, Diane’s, Robinsons, Wrights. Simple terms, but they have meaning to all in those halls. They want to provide protection products for any customer and allow for easy graduation to other products as lives become more complex. Lifelong customers. Allstate has “affordable simple connected” as a tag line, but does not have the backing tactics to support that line. Seriously - it doesn’t exist. Ask multiple senior leaders. You will not get a consistent answer. If you walk the halls of Progressive, even individuals in entry level positions know the strategy and how their work supports it.
  • Commitment to excellent experiences. The difference between PGR and ALL here is perhaps the biggest gap. The PRIMARY and most important interface between an insurance company and an individual is when claims are filed. When they need us to complete our end of the bargain. Whether home or auto, Progressive demands quick, transparent claims. They’ve built process and interrogated the value stream to the Nth degree. People rave about the experience. They get paid fairly and quicker than they expect. Allstate is the opposite. Look at the net promoter scores. Look at the data. Slow claims times. Low payouts and negative experiences. We even laugh in meetings about how homeowners don’t understand that roof claims are not fully covered. Look back at an early 2022 communication meeting and see our claims senior leader laughing at that. Belly laughing that our customers don’t understand the agreement. Disgusting. Simply a microcosm of how our execs value these experiences and the values they hold.

Simply put, Allstate has enjoyed 40-50 years of easy growth and has not needed to become sharp in nearly any way. You see it expressed in our leadership and the way our orgs are designed. This can be turned around, but it will take new leadership and laser focus on strategies that matter, and commitment to drive clear tactics down to the people doing the line level work.

Trian, I hope you read this.

If you want more detail,

GoodHandsGreatHands@proton.me

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1pcwRyoW He did the mob hit on Glenn and wacked him in the middle of night. Realized his mistake and took Glenn out.

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Post ID: @5ylp+1pcwRyoW

"Can any of the Tom lovers on this board point to one thing that has been a positive on his watch….Just one???"
... he had someone post a link to Cook County and employee complaints got Sanders Road rebuilt and pothole free... just before tearing down Northbrook HQ.

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Post ID: @3wxc+1pcwRyoW

@2chf+1pcwRyoW - get a life buddy. You will never get back the two hours you spent putting together a post that maybe ten miserable minions will read. Life is too short to be the so called “expert” on a topic that means so little to so few. Get a grip

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Post ID: @3hdw+1pcwRyoW

Having worked at several insurance companies as an adjuster and now working in the auto repair field one way Progressive (and GEICO) have done well is to stick it to their customers when it comes to repairs. When I have a customer from Allstate/USAA/State Farm and we uncover additional repairs needed we don't get push back.

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Post ID: @3zts+1pcwRyoW

Everything wrong with Allstate can be summed up with the phrase “project management tool”.

What have they chosen this time? Did they not learn the lesson from 15 years ago when they imposed Jira on everyone?

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Post ID: @2ivu+1pcwRyoW

So much about this post is on the mark.

"Progressive had to scrape and claw their way to near the top. Allstate floated and coasted there."

Yep. Allstate cruised on name recognition, customer good will and having a ton of money. All three of those vanished as the markets became more dynamic because corporate thinking didn't evolve with the markets. Senior management THINKS it did, but all they've really done is dabble. The middle management ranks are full of long time strap hangers who have carved out little fiefdoms for themselves.

Allstate hasn't had to compete. They've just been the big dog because of their name. Now they don't have the institutional memory to do it-which is why the 'increase rates, layoff people, buy stock back' 1990's thinking pervades everything. And the 1990s/early 2000's approach to software development.

"They want to provide protection products for any customer and allow for easy graduation to other products as lives become more complex. Lifelong customers. Allstate has “affordable simple connected” as a tag line, but does not have the backing tactics to support that line. Seriously - it doesn’t exist."

Nope, it sure doesn't. This is the boondoggle they threw money at for three years. You buy protection for your new printer at office depot and then since they know a little about you, they can add to your coverage when you need auto, home, etc... Instead they half assed a 'minimum viable' auto product out the door and gave up there to move on to property work. But they can't prioritize anything so all that new work got dumped on everyone IN ADDITION to the old work and as an added bonus, the geniuses in management decided to lay off 10% of the work force. That's solid business thinking right there.

So now ASC goes away and the flavor of the day is 'Outcome Based Delivery' and the asinine 'software factory.' A 20 year old delivery concept.

"the PRIMARY and most important interface between an insurance company and an individual is when claims are filed. When they need us to complete our end of the bargain. Whether home or auto, Progressive demands quick, transparent claims. They’ve built process and interrogated the value stream to the Nth degree. People rave about the experience."

Allstate management allegedly did value stream (customer journey) mapping. Has it trickled down? Nope. What they're doing is what they've always done: PMO waterfall project management. Because the old school Allstate strap hangers know what the customer wants better than the actual customers and markets do. And once they've decided on the course, it ain't gonna change no matter what the indicators are in the markets. Because a) they're the smartest people in the room, just ask them and b) they got big bonus checks riding on hitting the milestones they've set. Oh and c) they are COMPLETELY out of touch with the day to day reality of delivering anything in their own company. They remain blissfully ignorant of the amount of bureaucracy, overhead and paperwork dropped on delivery teams by the various petty lords. Those are the same petty lords who ensure that the reality of what they do never makes it up to their masters.

Zulfi and Suren actually believe this company can turn a concept around in two weeks. That's how laughably out of touch they are.

But it'll be fixed by this new piece of software they're buying! So we'll have that. We'll have the project management tool, hilariously misnamed 'digital agility.' We'll have the various tools the developers use to move code. And NONE of them talk to each other so we'll maintain information in still another place devised by still another silo. Yeah, one more piece of software ought to do it.

"Simply put, Allstate has enjoyed 40-50 years of easy growth and has not needed to become sharp in nearly any way. You see it expressed in our leadership and the way our orgs are designed. This can be turned around, but it will take new leadership and laser focus on strategies that matter, and commitment to drive clear tactics down to the people doing the line level work."

It will also take cleaning out all the waste, the bureaucracy, the overhead. It will take changing the old fashioned culture of fear into a more entrepreneurial, less risk averse one.

If I had one tip for Trian it'd be this: Talk to the people on the ground FIRST. Allstate has managed to hire some very talented, very innovative people. Ask them to be honest with you about what they have to go through to deliver something and what the emphasis truly is as they do. Pretty hard to deliver creative, innovating anything when you're told not just what to do but how you have to do it. Get all that cr-p out of people's way because our own management doesn't seem capable of doing it.

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Post ID: @2chf+1pcwRyoW

I have zero faith that this can be turned around inside Allstate by those at the top. There's too much internal politics. People (senior management) are driving their own agenda, often at odds with what I am told Suren and Zulfi want. I am told that I am empowered to make decisions, but I am not. Why would I buy into a new way of working when it's increasing my responsibilities by 40%, my required technical knowledge by the same amount (if not more) and asking more of my personal time with zero reviews done on my salary and no opportunity for training? If I become the employee that Suren and Zulfi want/need me to be, I am not leaving for a modest pay rise with this new skillset and knowledge. I will easily be doubling my money, if not more, and this is what I will be doing once I get over the holidays.

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Post ID: @1fcy+1pcwRyoW

It can be done by competent, knowledgeable leadership. Allstate has anything but. The ivory tower is full of id--ts and utter failures. Wilson and Rizzo are the poster children for the inept and incompetent.

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Post ID: @1bfc+1pcwRyoW

Actually, that’s a great point and is another difference between Allstate and Progressive. Every single employee participates in “gain sharing” - a bonus paid based on the profits earned. From the janitor to CEO. Program starts at 8% of salary all the way to 100% X sliding scale factor between 0-100% depending upon results. Thats right. Janitors, in a good year, could see 16% bonus. Talk about everyone marching to the same beat!

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Post ID: @1nkj+1pcwRyoW

Progressive made money, AND EMPLOYEES WILL GET BONUSES!

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Post ID: @1ihv+1pcwRyoW

Tom Wilson’s leadership overall has been a failure.
His hires have been failures, his acquisitions have been failures, his product ideas have been failures, customer service has deteriorated every year, Market share has deteriorated dramatically, marketing other than Mayham on his watch has been a failure…
The only cards he knows how to play is rate increases, lay people off and poor acquisitions to hide retention failures. That’s the total ability of his leadership….
Can any of the Tom lovers on this board point to one thing that has been a positive on his watch….Just one???

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Post ID: @vxn+1pcwRyoW

Good view here with one exception. Have not had 40 to 50 years of easy growth. Since early 80s, we were second largest carrier. Now 4, headed to 5. There has been no growth for 43 years. Pre 80s, in advance of Progressive and GEICO emergence, growth did occur as options were much fewer. Overall, accurate summary.

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Post ID: @lqp+1pcwRyoW

Progressive’s model would require significantly more reductions in force than are going on now. However, it would be awesome to shed all of the whining losers we still have employed here.

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