Thread regarding Cigna layoffs

The Real Cigna Su-ks!

Glass Ceiling for Women - Work long hours and put your families aside ladies, all for nothing. You’ll watch as your male counterparts, especially Indian men, get promoted.

Future of work - Farce to get people to leave on their own so Cigna doesn’t have to pay severance for layoffs. Threats to terminate employees as job abandonment for not returning to the office, which is being monitored by HR through badge swipes.

Salary Disparity - women can expect to make less than men for doing the same job. Same goes for raises and bonuses.

Promotion by popularity - Yes, it’s like being in school all over again. Your manager doesn’t decide if you get a promotion. Other managers vote on whether or not you can be promoted. In some groups, there is a list of things some people need to accomplish and document to be considered for promotion, but not others, who are held to a different standard. For some, it’s a moving target. Do this, now do that, now do this other thing, but still the promotion doesn’t come.

Work Life Inbalance - No overtime pay for contractors or employees but an expectation to work more than 40 hours/week is standard. Get the job done whatever it takes is the message.

Yes, more layoffs are coming, but upper management will still get their huge bonuses.

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Post ID: @OP+1pGthY1J

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Ahh, but they are promoting women to leadership positions in order to meet their DEI goals of 50% women in those positions (which ELT said they are almost there). If anything, women are regarded more than men, especially in lower levels where I see Band 3/4 men with same experience often making less than their female counterparts.

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Post ID: @1avi+1pGthY1J

I don't disagree with this, however from my personal experience, I often am the only male in most internal meetings. Cigna is predominately female (front line services), but as you rise in leadership I agree how it becomes more male which means you have a valid point.

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Post ID: @1zki+1pGthY1J
"The principle program is a boy’s club, with almost 4 males for every 1 female in the program."

That's not far off of the overall demographic for IT.. Why would a program within IT not replicate the same demographics? Or are you saying that more women should be made principals just because they are women and its has to be 50/50?

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Post ID: @1iiu+1pGthY1J

Overall, I don’t really agree that there is a significant glass ceiling for women. I have not personally experienced this and I’ve been promoted twice in 8 years. In my department 3 of the 5 senior leaders are women and there are many women in leadership roles across the company. Now, at the top executive level there may be some truth to that as only 2 of the 9 ELT members are female…

Regarding salary disparities, several times Cigna has made gender adjustments to salaries to try to correct imbalances. And I know plenty of other women who are making at least as much as their male counterparts. It’s definitely not perfect and could be improved, but many other companies are worse.

One area I do agree with you is on the Future of Work/return to office initiative. That has definitely disproportionately negatively affected women- and the company has even acknowledged that on manager calls. More women than men have left because of FoW, which shouldn’t have been surprising to anyone.

But it is a scary time to be here with all the layoffs and real uncertainty about the future. I’m trying to remain optimistic.

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Post ID: @bls+1pGthY1J

That glass ceiling for women is so true. Another inequality for women is the Principal Technologist Program. The principal track was supposed to have been created for individual contributors to be able to advance in band and salary, equivalent to the manager tract. Unfortunately, the principal program became voting versus promoting. At one point, the people in the principal program were creating tests for the principal candidates to take. If the candidate wasn’t an expert in the field that the test was written for, then they could not get into the principal program. The principle program is a boy’s club, with almost 4 males for every 1 female in the program.

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