Most post I have seen so far are for management, not to downplay anyone losing their jobs but anyone seen or heard of any changes for C and E?
we lost a engineer and cc but no core technicians have been hit so far!
I and R has been very slow almost too slow but nothing has happened?
is this same every where else? please let us know
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Eventually all work will shift to Giga Power to avoid having to use union labor. Service and Maintenance agreements will be negotiated via supply chain to use suppliers/contractors using MSA's (Master Service Agreements). This is the current model being used on the Mobility side.
There won’t be any major surplus for craft employees worth mentioning until next year, at least in the SE. But next year…everybody better have their ducks in a row. It’s going to be nasty. There could be a 30%-40% headcount reduction. In some areas you’re going to need around 25 years of service to be spared. Anything less than that and you need to start preparing now. I’m talking about “Thanos snap” inevitability. It’s coming. Avengers…assemble.
Just go on a strike at contract expiration and get the dreaded lockout for a few months. Lose lots of pay. Get the$100 a week strike fund payment from the ghost union. Then get laid off.
I have a similar fixed wireless product from a competitor. It has worked great the four years that I've had it. Speeds often reach over 500Mbps.
No technician ever came to my house. They just shipped the modem and I plugged it in.
When 5G became available, they shipped me a new modem to upgrade. No fees, no questions asked.
AT&T air is about as likely to replace technicians as pigs are to fly. Either it won’t work as good as they say or the techs will all be retired by the time its ubiquitous enough to phase out the network.
Post was about C&E and I&R layoffs. Not this other B.S. Work has been minimal not enough work for 10 techs covering 5 wire centers, expect layoffs soon. Company not going to continue paying I&R pay for you to sit around.
AT&T Hot Air Internet ?!?
On the same success curve as previous projects...
I believe you are referring to AIR GIG. Gigabit transmission across power lines.
Vapor ware. Absolute bullsh-t from the AT&T "Leadership". The stockholders ate it up, until they found out the tech was bullsh-t and Stankey was not qualified to run a Taco Bell.
We are paying the price.
AT&T Air Internet is for rural areas that have enough cellular capacity to support a cellular hot spot for a drop in CSI device. It is a stop gap measure.
What is next AT&T "AIR GIG?"
So where does EdgeCore and Dafy fit into the new world order
Big push for venders to get the work done
At&t Hot Air Internet ?!?
On the same success curve as previous projects...
I am not sure the size of the layoffs but they will be kicking off as soon as 2024 starts. There has been a lot of work in the background trying to utilize techs for ANYTHING to keep them busy. IF you work in a predominantly copper job we all know that is coming to an end. There is also pressure to push a new product (AT&T Air Internet) that is on a timeline to replace DSL, ADSL and VDSL. The new product will be used to negotiate in future contracts. The company does plan to utilize the product to fill the gaps when/if a strike happens.
IF (still in trial markets) the product works as intended this will be Customer Self Install. It will require NO field tech no copper infrastructure. The company will argue that the skill set for Craft is no longer needed in the copper infrastructure. And reduction will be made. Please remember if your area is already running low on work this will just add to the lack of work.
Good luck.
Does that mean that layoff notices for craft could come out in December for a 2024 layoff or will notices go out in March of 2024? Not quite sure how the contract actually works.
OK, I get why the article was posted after 2 years, but I believe technicians are safe from any layoffs in most cases unless work is very slow in your areas of the country. Our area is still hiring and I'm not sure it's too ramp up head count in order to lessen the blow of future layoffs or just because more work is coming down the pike.
“This article is from Sept. 2021, 2 years old! Who cares about a deal T made with the union 2 years ago. It only affects 29k union employees out of the nearly 85k union employees that T has on its payroll.”
It expires in 90 days. Our protection is gone that is why they are posting a link to it now. Overall headcount protections are gone.
"huh? There is no longer a C&E, it merged to CNIO. You are a troll."
management constantly changing names and re-orging, nobody knows what Bus unit they are in on any given day ....constantly trying to put lipstick on a pig
This article is from Sept. 2021, 2 years old! Who cares about a deal T made with the union 2 years ago. It only affects 29k union employees out of the nearly 85k union employees that T has on its payroll.
“Engineering is all Management.”
Not in Ohio. I am an engineer, but I have the TCS title. I do more work as an hourly engineer than any paid management engineer. Outside work and design. I don't have an "assistant".
“Engineering is all Management.” Yeah, except for support staff, clerical operations, so no, Engineering is not all management. Engineers may be management, entire organization is not
Engineering is all Management.
Year old article
But…
How many of us are waiting for the money truck to dump on us?
4+4+30, old time Pacbell offer
Or 2 years pay works
After many, many years of surplussing technicians, the company is "right sizing" the managers. The company is in its nascent and somewhat unfamiliar role of correcting the workforce regarding the upper management to workforce ratio.
Down vote it all that you can. Your efforts will not make it less true. AT&T is top heavy and has been for a very long time.
Some orgs with all management (no union) are saying “no more layoffs” even though there’s many who don’t & never did enough…
Protected friends / favorites of leaders
Surplus in Dec to be off books for the new year or first quarter 2024.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/att-union-agreement-29000-technician-jobs
I hope that is true. A lot of Union severance packages will be paid to those who have been waiting for it. Next step, right size the "management" who will have less span of control.
Win, win!
Surplus in Dec to be off books for the new year or first quarter 2024.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/att-union-agreement-29000-technician-jobs
huh? There is no longer a C&E, it merged to CNIO.
You are wrong. You should also be divested from the company. That would be a good thing.
“huh? There is no longer a C&E, it merged to CNIO. You are a troll.”
Not everybody keeps up with the name of the week for all of these groups. Construction, Engineering, Cable Repair, Specials, Slick, CO are the standard names that have been around for decades. Find something else to complain about.
huh? There is no longer a C&E, it merged to CNIO. You are a troll.
After many, many years of surplussing technicians, the company is "right sizing" the managers. The company is in its nascent and somewhat unfamiliar role of correcting the workforce regarding the upper management to workforce ratio.
Positive I’m in the southwest and we’ve seen zero. I know about 6 months ago Dallas got hit if I remember right? Could it be your exaggerating?
AT&T surplussed 49 NOC technicians about 8 months ago in Las Colinas. (Dallas) They were under under a different contract as core. Internet services I believe. We in the Central Office have to use a web based tool that sometimes work to replace what they did.
“You sure you work for the company? There has been layoffs every quarter this year for inside union/occupational.”
Positive I’m in the southwest and we’ve seen zero. I know about 6 months ago Dallas got hit if I remember right? Could it be your exaggerating?
You sure you work for the company? There has been layoffs every quarter this year for inside union/occupational.
I’ve heard that too. I wonder if it’s just the southeast or all areas? Makes me wonder if they’ll be a surplus of inside union folks.
Haven’t you read any past post? There is a MOA in effect for outside techs, no layoffs till next year and yes it’s slow everywhere. The company put the breaks on a lot of projects and expenses to meet free cash flow commitments for Wall Street. So, yes more management RTO, relocation and layoffs for the foreseeable future.