Thread regarding USAA layoffs

Retaliation: when the head of your department orders a Code Red on you

Retaliation can be subtle or blatant. However, any negative action taken by an employer which is severe enough to deter a reasonable employee from exercising their legal rights is likely to support a legal claim of retaliation. Any adverse change in working conditions might qualify as retaliation.

Demotion: Any employer decision to lessen your status, limit responsibilities, curtail seniority privileges associated with your position, or reduce your salary, commission, or bonus can be evidence of retaliation.

Denied opportunities: When an employer refuses to provide educational benefits, stops funding attendance at conferences and seminars, or suddenly stops paying for travel or membership in a trade or professional organization after an employee files a complaint about workplace conditions, there might be retaliation. Employers might try to hide their intentions by claiming financial reasons for curtailing benefits and opportunities, but the discovery process attendant to an investigation or civil suit can uncover the real motives.

Excessive micromanagement: Suddenly, your work is examined or reviewed by a hostile supervisor who is looking for mistakes and missteps and who is constantly hounding you to go faster, change direction, or removes your authority to act independently.

Salary reductions or loss of hours: Receiving a pay cut, losing regularly scheduled hours, or losing a preferred shift to accommodate family or childcare responsibilities can also be a form of retaliation. These changes can sometimes be quite subtle, surrounded by reasonable-sounding justifications, which are merely covers for retaliation.

Exclusion: Being intentionally kept out of meetings, training, or workplace social events can feel like gaslighting at times, especially when these exclusions are sudden, and work colleagues go silent around you without explanation.

Reassignment: Having your customary responsibilities reassigned to other employees or having your schedule modified to cause undue hardship are other forms of retaliation. Disappearing workplace accommodations to care for family members or children, loss of regularity in shift assignments, or sudden assignment to less favorable shifts that causes you undue hardship is also retaliation.

Bullying or harassment: Sometimes, employers rely on other employees to enforce their displeasure with your complaints and encourage others to bully or harass you at the workplace. These measures can be humiliating and demoralizing as they isolate you from your peers.

Excessive negative job performance reviews: After years of favorable reviews and job promotions, an employer turns on an employee who has complained about any form of workplace discrimination by changing the tone and content of job performance reviews.

Termination: The ultimate form of retaliation is termination, loss of salary and well-being, loss of status, and a blot on your employment record. Termination can be actual or constructive. Actual termination is just being fired, however, constructive termination is when your employer subjects you to intolerable working conditions for the purpose of causing you to resign. Over a course of time, your employer might reprimand you for trivial incidents, write up serial negative job reviews, or engage in a scheme to humiliate you at work among your peers and threaten to terminate you if you don’t resign. The pressure becomes so intense that you are forced to quit, which might be considered constructive termination.

How is workplace retaliation proven?
To successfully prove a claim of workplace retaliation, a complainant must prove:
You were engaged in a protected activity of complaining about workplace discrimination, culture, public health, and safety, or compliance with federal and state laws;
You suffered some form of negative workplace consequences; and
And the adverse employment action was caused by the protected activity.
Employers often defend these actions by fabricating stories about inadequate performance, misdeeds, and incompetence despite those instances having never shown up in previous performance reviews until the retaliation began.

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Post ID: @OP+1oRoACiv

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My boss ordered a Code Red....

... Mountain Dew

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Post ID: @1sbl+1oRoACiv

This guy is an id--t. You can ABSOLUTELY tell your boss no because you are too sick to work and going home. Obviously I've given a VERY short version of the story. You don't know anything about it or me so step off!

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Post ID: @kkr+1oRoACiv

@kvp+1oRoACiv, FWIW, they literally cannot see what you do on the non-managed apps (at least on iPhones, I’m sure it’s the same on Android but I don’t have one to confirm). The MDM that you install basically gives them permission to lock or wipe, and get certain metadata from the phone such as the software version, the WiFi you’re connected to, the apps you have installed, etc.

They can NOT view your browsing history or anything like that when you’re on mobile data or your home WiFi. There is no mobile device management profile that can enable that, either. The giant caveat is that if you are connected to the work WiFi, all bets are off.

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Post ID: @kio+1oRoACiv

@feo+1oRoACiv

Mostly true, but if you were to commit slander or breach confidentiality in a significantly damaging away, authorities can find ways to circumnavigate the anonymity. But you’d have to do something pretty flagrantly illegal, otherwise you’d have free speech advocates laying into both the authorities and USAA.

However, if you allowed USAA to install apps on your phone, I’d be wary. Theoretically they shouldn’t be able to view anything in your non work apps, but I wouldn’t trust that as gospel if they were for some reason particularly motivated to circumvent that limitation.

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Post ID: @kvp+1oRoACiv

@fsh+1oRoACiv
You keep posting about this situation (I've seen you mention it at least 3 times), but it reeks of "two sides to every story." Something tells me there's a lot more to the story and how you handled the situation than what you let on and you keep posting about it on here for people to sympathize with you.

I felt uncomfortable and unsafe after someone reported me to HR for something that turned out to be nothing.

You felt unsafe? What, were they threatening you with physical harm? And what exactly was that "something that turned out to be nothing"? You're leaving out key details to make your story sound more pitiful.

I was asking to have that employee removed from the workspace

That's not a thing. You can't just ask your manager to "remove someone from the workspace."

she knew I was upset by the situation

If someone truly reported you to HR for nothing, this is justified. The fact that you don't say what you were reported for is telling.

I told her no, I'm calling out sick.

That's insubordination. You can't just tell your boss no unless what they're asking you to do is illegal, immoral, or unethical. And even when you do do that, you need to report the situation yourself. There's a right and wrong way to handle the situation when your manager asks you to do something you don't want to do. Just saying "Nah, I'm gonna call in sick" is firmly in the wrong way category.

I packed my stuff in the workspace and told the employee that I didn't feel comfortable around not to talk to me and then I was fired.

Something tells me that's not exactly how it went down. I'd wager that others who witnessed the situation probably see you cause a scene and make a dramatic exit. Even if it went down exactly as you stated, you can't simply tell your coworker not to talk to you. Beyond creating a hostile/toxic work environment, it makes working effectively as a team impossible.

Honestly, just the way you talk about this situation on here makes it sound like you're one of those insufferable perpetual victims that everyone hates working with. Sounds like your team is better off without you. I'd love to hear the other employee's and/or your manager's version of the story.

This isn't even a defense of USAA or a suggestion that the company never retaliates. I have no doubt that people are retaliated against on a regular basis. It just feels like there's a lot more to this story, and you're conveniently leaving out details to make yourself out to be the victim and to garner sympathy.

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Post ID: @hma+1oRoACiv

It's annonymous so how would they know?

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Post ID: @feo+1oRoACiv

Is it retaliation if we get fired for posting here? I didn't see that covered above.

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Post ID: @zdf+1oRoACiv

I am pretty sure my story qualifies. I was literally telling my manager I felt uncomfortable and unsafe after someone reported me to HR for something that turned out to be nothing. I was asking to have that employee removed from the workspace and the manager refused and continued to tell me to return to the workspace even though she knew I was upset by the situation. I told her no, I'm calling out sick. I packed my stuff in the workspace and told the employee that I didn't feel comfortable around not to talk to me and then I was fired. They said that my comment "don't talk to me" was considered retaliation on that employee for reporting me. I got fired over the situation. Talk about a TARGET on my back.

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