Thread regarding Lumen Technologies layoffs

Knowing the past, rather than feelz, is important. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. Like making "strategic" deployments of fiber to the prem or reducing line loss.

If the fat is not cut now, someone else will be there soon to buy out Lumen, cleave it off with a lot more pain, and heck of a lot less severance payments....

Yes, very on topic. Legacy accounts / billing / support side I can tell you has layers and layers of unneeded management/supervisors/analysts/coordinators. They basically sit at home all day passing gas looking at numbers and sounding important with their woke ideologies in meetings while field techs and tech support fix everything and do all he work reguardless.

Recently you can see them moving work from low level workers to analysts and coordinators to give them something to do and most of them are very cushy, friends or family of upper management.

Its very ga----a on the legacy support side. You can RIF most all those managers/analysts/coordinators/programmers/and even the lower level butt lickers that do nothing and work will still get done, and maybe even more efficiently with all the deadweight.

You have supervisors and managers that are followers, not leaders and manage nothing.
You have analysts that analyze nothing.
You have Coordinators that do not coordinate anything.
You have programmers that program nothing , or program garbage cause they are not really programmers.
Most all these act all high almighty and look down on those who do all the work with less pay.

Some of them work in Pennsylvania, a state we don't have any business in. Lots on other states too like MO. You could RIF them and you wouldn't've notice anything.

This is a tough job for any CEO, male, female, old, young, tech, non-tech. The hole is so deep for debt, and the story so blah for customers.

KJ seems to be trying to pull it to the extreme tech position, just to move the company in reality to a point where it seen as a contender to consider, not dismiss. Its a shame that the supposedly fastest, most connected network appears so meek in the market.

Give her credit for trying to change the mindset and the story. Yeah, did she may have picked a few doozies at first, in panic... Maybe, but I would not underestimate her determination to succeed. She's made enough money- the extra from Lumen doesn't seem like a life changer. A successful turn around at Lumen- that's a reputation builder if there is one...

What's happening to all the revenue from the sales of property? They got over 40 million alone from the Mineral Building in Colorado. Interlocken is also for sale

Some of that money can finance the VSP's. They can also consolidate many layers of management without packages. They could really trim operating costs if they wanted to. Maybe they're trying to continue to keep inflated operating costs to help them have a softer & easier Chapter 11. It is mind-boggling & perplexing how we operate daily.

It's amazing how there's better ideas & strategies on this forum than on the company's homepage. Truly amazing how we see it & how they operate it. Maybe the one person who thinks the majority of us are female CEO haters may disagree. There's not a man or woman on the current executive team or board of directors who can right this ship. They all have a greater goal for their wallets than ours. As far as the infighting on other posts on this site between L3, CTL, USW, Q, etc. You can defend or blame any of those former & current CEO's you want. They're sitting in mansions today not giving a bleep about any of us or the collateral damage they caused.

however..... 600-800m is spread out over a years time. With the "paycheck to paycheck' reality that is Lumen, do we have 200m to do a basic rif? does this money come from a special budget or is it tax deductable? I know a lot of people would accept a VSP if it were offered, just make it worth our while, but how would the company ever afford a VSP program?

A large scale rif, would have big time ramifications. Lots of people would get a lot more work! Moral would get even worse. A large number of people who have hung on and tried to buy in to this mess, will finally clue in that it's a losing battle and leave. A large group of any rif would need to come from the management ranks and above.

there is a whole lotta nothing getting done internally

the place is back to groups doing whatever they do in silos and generally not functioning as one

dilbert has always been real at telcos

only lumen seems even worse these days

4300 people cost between $600-800M a year. So paying out $200m to save $400-600m has a great payback and may make projects go faster with less fat! KJ should do it in a heartbeat!

Legacy is going going and gone! Either we give the customers something new or they are going to Comcast or the like.

a 15% cut is like 4300 employees and would cost about 200 million in bare minimum severance. Do we have 200 million?
I'd like to see a VSP, but a VSP for 4300 people that may run about 500 million.

They have a had year since new CEO took the reigns. All the centralized groups keep building empires and organizations of nothing but question askers about projects that have no skin in the game. Way too much fat in this company but they just can’t seem to do the right thing with the head count. 15 percent cut would be a game changer to the bottom line and a good starting point. I am not talking about field ops though. Do this and then maybe folks will take the date to lead book serious. Other than nothing but ti-s up in the future days ahead.

So keep ra-ing legacy to pay for enterprise pipe dreams that have never paid off?

A span of control and depth of layers review may be coming down from the new HR EVP

Wonder why the big changes are not being made? Given the need to save, especially on the legacy side, and apply the next dollar to enterprise, the lack of movement is perplexing!

good Lord there's a huge swath of useless management that needs to be gone! way too chiefs! too many evp/svp/vp/sr dir/dir/sr mgr/mgr, who sit back and wait for reports to be run for them so they can in turn kiss the a$$ of those above them.

very interested to see q3 numbers and what q4 brings us.
how about a vsp for Christmas?