Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Managers

I’m not at oracle any more but me and a buddy who used to work there were talking about our managers. I had six managers in the time I was there. Almost two decades.

None of my managers were competent.
None were fair.
All discriminated based on one thing or another.
All had equal or less ability than those they managed.
All would dump their best people to appease their boss.
All seemed to have weird or terrible personal lives.
All had vanilla, robotic type personalities that seemed to lack empathy/compassion/sense.
None of them, except one, did or could do the work of the people that they managed. This is something that really wore me down cause I’m like, how can I come to you about my problem when you’ve never been in the trenches?
All seemed to start fires for no reason other than to save the day.

I know oracle is huge and you’re gonna have some bad apples, but 90% bad apples? I mean, not even apples you wanna take 1/10th of a bite of.

I learned too late that I wasted time, but thankfully got away from all of them.

Anyone else have similar experiences?

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OP here. This is amazingy detailed. Love it. I am glad to see that many of us share similar sentiments of one or all of our Oracle managers. Whomever made the comment of "don't even go a level above manager....dont make me" cracked me up. I laugh cause I have to imagine they wake up in the morning saying, "how worthless can I be today? how lazy can I be?" As a man, I actually feel sad for them. I know I am a man, that loves to work and has worked hard. What I see from Oracle mgrs is they didn't work, kissed a TON of a$$ and well, they're actually hated by lots of people around them after all is said and done. There are some, few I came in contact with, that had a really bad impact on my career before I was too wise to it. Like I didn't know my tech yet. I beleived in this guy (still there milking the teet), and man, he was as incompetent as they come and just a total "yes man" fraud. He even stole my work! SMH. Sad dude. Sad dude.

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Post ID: @frtg+1oNUZ4tR

Yah, I was there 10 years when we finally got 11.5.10 working, then started on the cloud stuff. Loved my three managers but understood that they were not the norm.

Saw this today on X, and it made me laugh. Just like Client/Server when it came out…

“Oracle Fusion Cloud ERP Recognized as Leader in 2023 Gartner® Magic Quadrant™ for Cloud ERP for Service-Centric Enterprises… @Oracle ‘Service-Centric’? 🤣😂🤣 10 years of Cloud dev and all you can lead is Services Businesses - like Field service? 😆🤣”

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Post ID: @3mrr+1oNUZ4tR
So working “around the clock” is now a measure of competence. Great, just great.

Yea it's great. It's great for ending up in an early grave.

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Post ID: @3ydz+1oNUZ4tR

Most were clueless. Those that weren’t were being sabotaged by the corrupt. There is a relationship between incompetence and corruption. Those that can’t do their job, cheat.

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Post ID: @3pob+1oNUZ4tR
  • 7 years of bliss at Oracle "Apps Unlimited" support org.
  • 8 different managers.
  • 1st manger laid off 1 week after I started.
  • 2nd manger had me for 1 month.
  • 3rd manager was a psycho. Vindictive. Zero empathy. Championed "gamification" of everything, which fit it perfectly with her preference to treat everyone like a child.
  • 4th manager was nice. Experienced. Diplomatic. Helpful. Tried to advocate for logical steps, then got canned along with manager 2.
  • 5th manager was like your nice timid aunt. Only skill was ability to not address much of anything like a politician. Retired soon after.
  • 6th manager was a fill in by a director. Personable guy that somehow made it look like he had something to do even though directors quite literally have nothing to do in support orgs except for occasionally having to get on calls with furious customers sick of paying for Oracle's garbage zero investment support. So I guess that's worth something. But not a director's salary.
  • 7th manager. Good guy. Originally a colleague who started when I did. Competent. Willing to help. But handcuffed for the most part by the bs from above.
  • 8th manager. A lifer. A cheerleader for whatever came down, regardless of whether any of it made sense. Loved saying things like "we'll either it's your cup of tea or it's not" when concerns were brought forward.

The pi$$ in the cups at Oracle's tea party is nobody's cup of tea. That's why my group of 33 support engineers 8 years ago is now down to 4, from the last I heard anyway. Could be less now. Saying the whole operation is a joke oversells the place by several orders of magnitude.

Other than that, leadership seems to amazing.

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Post ID: @3uui+1oNUZ4tR

So working “around the clock” is now a measure of competence. Great, just great.

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Post ID: @2qev+1oNUZ4tR

I don't know, my boss (M5 Senior Director in SaaS) is extremely competent and works pretty much around the clock. May be an exception. I have no complains.

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Post ID: @vus+1oNUZ4tR

On the mark! For my time served there, I had six managers, four incompetent; one very competent; one mediocre. And let's not go up a level for each manager... I can't even.

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Post ID: @wck+1oNUZ4tR

Downvotes are from Oracle managers lol

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Post ID: @xaa+1oNUZ4tR

Well said.

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