Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

I love hearing policy from places like this and not my own reporting line. Do t ask too many questions or the evil eye will be upon you!

Spare me the virtual workers that are not physically close to an office.. most have to go into the office 3xs a week, with long commutes. Boohoo.. once a month you can travel.

It's based on days in the office. Not teleworking days. So if there's a holiday, it doesn't matter. You still need to be in 3 days. If you're on vacation 3 out of 5 days that week, you need to go in the other 2. Thanksgiving week, there are 2 designated off days.. we will need to go in the other 3. Yes, this su-ks!

We were told that vacation and holidays can be counted as office days.

LMAO....This one is good but can't tell if he is being sarcastic or not. Maybe an additional day for folks to sit in the cafeteria and hit chat, take pictures posting I AM HERE!, go to the gym, take walks and long lunches as that is pretty much what I see from a small majority. Slackers will be slackers regardless of where they work.

"If the week with time off and holidays sums to 4, lose 1 telecommute day."Don't think of it as losing a telecommuting day. You are gaining an additional opportunity for in-person collaboration at the office!

We were told be in the office at least 3 days per week period. So if Monday is a holiday and you take Tuesday as PTO, you need to be in the office Wed, Thu, Fri. They are more worried about who swipes in than who’s actually working. Slackers will be slackers, no matter how many days they commute.

"Some you are sounding like coddled young adults that cant get out of their parents homes because work causes them anxiety or depression. "

And some people are too dense to understand this isn't just a "back to the office" exercise for people hired in as virtual who aren't even physically close to one of their designated offices.

Some you are sounding like coddled young adults that cant get out of their parents homes because work causes them anxiety or depression.

How often would this even come up?

As a supervisor, I can tell you I will consider this sort of thing to be noise. You were in 3 days in all the full weeks but fell short in a holiday week? Close is close enough, unless someone jumps up and down and demands I address something. And even then - hey Bob, wink wink, you had a dentist appt that week, right?

They simply cannot micromanage this to that level, and if their plan is to have me do it for them, they need a new plan. Because I think it's stupid, like every other sup I know. And Director. And AVP. In fact there's really only one person who doesn't think it's stupid.

Keeping up. It is easy. It is all automated. Then our Supervisor gets a report “on demand” of the direct reports. It is not hard.

Chase excellence and always surpass expectations:

Work in office for 8 hours, 5 days as week.

No need to do telecommuting arithmetic.

I was told they were tracking swipes by hours and the percent is what would matter. So on a holiday week, to get to 60%, you would have to do two 8 hour days and a partial--yes, still 3 day commutes. But that's different than this matrix view. But given that this company is better at tracking than innovating, I wouldn't put anything past them.

I hope company also checks on number of hours employees spend at office. I see many leave early and should be dealt with.

“ "𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘨𝘶𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘢 𝘯𝘦𝘸 𝘩𝘪𝘳𝘦"

OP here. Nope, over 25 years. One feature of being full-time remote was being able to escape the schoolhouse environment which I had displeasure of experiencing a few times across even fewer years. Fortunately the nanny managers were short-lived, either laid off themselves or jumping to a promotion in another department, but unfortunately that's who's running the company now.”

So your only knowledge of the company is what has been told to you since you don’t live in the culture? Nothing more than an outside observer. Equivalent to being stationed in Germany in the late 60s and early 70s, but never going to Vietnam…

Yes, I have seen the matrix. It is a real thing.

Hey, mister Cry Me a River!

Remote workers respect that some jobs require physical presence. Obviously the plant requires work on company poles and facilities, and on-premises cannot be remote (with the exception of sofware configuration). We get that. We respect that.

But you might consider that for a full time teleworker, any forced return is a radical change. This RTO does constitute a crisis for those who built their lives trusting a seemingly secure concept.

So what, besides hiring Jeremy Legg, has changed? The company spent heavily preparing its headquarters to be a media center on a failed bet we could out HBO the people who created HBO. And hat was but one of many unfortunate deals that landed us in debt.

We came up short on cash.

In the past, the response would have been multiple waves of layoffs, a sad but definite end for those who were losing their job. RTO accomplishes that same objective, with a big advantage: the remote worker is averages out to older, more experienced, and higher paid. No EEO worries, no published age distribution, and if the goverment comes asking, "hey, the requirements of the job moved to the hub."

Pretty slick move, if you overlook Stankey slipping up on the town hall admitting this is about pushing out the older workers. I might respect it more if I didn't have to put up with the leadership ladder all singing fake praise about being in the office together. They don't believe it. You shouldn't either.

“ Cry me a river!!

I’m on a 7 day a week schedule and report a minimum 5 days a week on a rotating weekends schedule too. As an I&M FT, I was considered essential, worked all through the pandemic doing a customer facing job, installing and repairing facilities, special circuits, customers pots, internet lines and remote gateways, etc.. never missed a day and worked overtime. I knew it was essential for people to use the internet/phones for remote communications…news, kids had school work, Zoom DR appts., online shopping, people working remotely to keep their jobs, etc... I’ve since have moved on to an inside position but at the time I felt it was my duty and proud to provide an essential service during an extraordinarily difficult time for the world.

So RTO people ki-l me with, the sky is falling, the sky is falling, we have to report 3 days a week, then we leave early to make up for it….waaaah!! I do have some sympathy for employees having to relocate across the country on their own dime to keep a job. I wouldn’t be happy about that either but guess what? only fellow RTO workers have any empathy for you on returning to the office. The rest of us have been reporting at the office the whole time, sorry if we unmoved for your crisis.”

Get a better degree where you can work remote, scrub-lord.
We got CS degrees so we didn’t have to go into the office, and other companies are still offering full remote…it’s called a benefit.
So yeah, gifted developers will actually leave if they don’t meet what we expect to be compensated…and the company over all will be worse off for it.

"𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘨𝘶𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘢 𝘯𝘦𝘸 𝘩𝘪𝘳𝘦"

OP here. Nope, over 25 years. One feature of being full-time remote was being able to escape the schoolhouse environment which I had displeasure of experiencing a few times across even fewer years. Fortunately the nanny managers were short-lived, either laid off themselves or jumping to a promotion in another department, but unfortunately that's who's running the company now.

We have been told holiday and pto trade 1 for 1 for in office days in my org. A client team is now 5 days in office. 3-5 days in office is the rule as I read it. I think each org has the autonomy to decide how that works based on needs of the business.

Cry me a river!!

I’m on a 7 day a week schedule and report a minimum 5 days a week on a rotating weekends schedule too. As an I&M FT, I was considered essential, worked all through the pandemic doing a customer facing job, installing and repairing facilities, special circuits, customers pots, internet lines and remote gateways, etc.. never missed a day and worked overtime. I knew it was essential for people to use the internet/phones for remote communications…news, kids had school work, Zoom DR appts., online shopping, people working remotely to keep their jobs, etc... I’ve since have moved on to an inside position but at the time I felt it was my duty and proud to provide an essential service during an extraordinarily difficult time for the world.

So RTO people ki-l me with, the sky is falling, the sky is falling, we have to report 3 days a week, then we leave early to make up for it….waaaah!! I do have some sympathy for employees having to relocate across the country on their own dime to keep a job. I wouldn’t be happy about that either but guess what? only fellow RTO workers have any empathy for you on returning to the office. The rest of us have been reporting at the office the whole time, sorry if we unmoved for your crisis.

How many times does someone bring this cr-p up. The corporate real estate market will crash without you sheep reporting to your fields. I mean duh. Us big investors need to keep doubling our money every few years off your backs and inconvenience. How difficult is this to understand? It has nothing to do with "productivity" or "collaboration".

No, this is made up.

I haven’t seen it. But we do love to over complicate everything so it’s believable.

If working in the office is in fact more productive then why do we only do it 2 or 3 days per week. Just to be nice? I don’t think so

Based on your schoolchildren comment, I can only guess you are a new hire with less than a year. Anyone here longer than that with the ability to open their eyes would already know everyone is treated like children.

"If the week with time off and holidays sums to 4, lose 1 telecommute day."

Don't think of it as losing a telecommuting day. You are gaining an additional opportunity for in-person collaboration at the office!