Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Ah if only Intel …..

Can’t claim credit….

Can you imagine if Intel design and softwares was unleashed and could use TSMC and had nice parity with Apple, AMD and Nvidia what they could have done ? Too bad Jim and Bob weren’t allowed to enable Intel to really compete. Now they just wallow and beg for tax payer money

The “She”. Is Lisa Su.

“She's earned every penny by increasing shareholder value 50X....

Jim Keller and Lisa brought about AMD's strategic inflection point.

Had Intel's board and CEO heeded Jim's advice Intel would still be relevant in high end computing and stockholders could have realized good returns, employees could have their jobs and be well paid for them. The communities on the West Side of Portland and Chandler region would be flourishing and not facing a potential loss of tax base and a glut of residential and commercial properties. No one has, yet painted an accurate picture for Pat G and the board - they are in very precarious financial position. It's like Intel is driving across town through 12 stop lights and expecting them all to be green. Some bold person on the board needs to insist Intel give all stakeholders a realistic picture of it's go forward prospects. Intel's decades long, fake it til you make it, approach doesn't fly anymore in Silicon Valley.

It's time for yet another strategic inflection point for Intel. It's been all downhill since Jim Keller's proposal was rejected and he was fired for Challenging the Status Quo”

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When Intel design require 12+ steppings to get it right the company would go bankrupt using TSMC. As has been pointed out many times before the company culture and methodology is fundamentally flawed. Turning things around is not as simple as changing one thing. You only wish it were that easy.

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Post ID: @4erb+1nsBId24

Let’s also not forget the wonderful mobile SOC turds that Intel had to pay vendors to use via contra revenue.

Also using an objectively superior process technology at that time.

Apple and Qualcomm dominated Intel with inferior transistors.

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Post ID: @2lca+1nsBId24

Let’s not forget AMD was first with dual core and Intel came out with Smithfield.

Of course AMD was first with IPC per clock and Intel went for Prescott and Tejas.

AMd went chiplets and Intel of course followed.

Intel does know how to copy, CE!

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Post ID: @2fbh+1nsBId24

@1gvb
Are you an engineer at Intel?
If so, that is a frightening fact.

It’s 64-bit X86 genius.
Not the general concept of 64-bit addresses and datapaths.

Since AMD-64 came out first, Intel had to copy it VERBATIM to maintain compatibility or else lose server share to AMD.

Jesus Christ… I really hope you’re in sales or some other bvllsh$t job.

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Post ID: @2lfz+1nsBId24

Well, I hear BK has been out of work for a year now... maybe if he keeps his pants on this time?

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Post ID: @1yiq+1nsBId24

@o1yg no JK invented it in the mid/late 80s. Nintendo had 64 bit instructions before mainstream desktop PC.

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Post ID: @1gvb+1nsBId24

Let’s also not forget that x86-64 was invented by AMD and copied by Intel.

Intel design is very overrated.
AMD can deliver roughly the same performance in roughly half of the area.

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Post ID: @1oyg+1nsBId24

@1fmb+1nsBId24 FUBAR than!!!

Design $ucks too!!

We already know TMG $ucks

FUBAR

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Post ID: @1quv+1nsBId24

Let’s get serious. Who are we kidding?

Intel design capability is nowhere near as good as the competition. Even with a dominating process lead, Intel messed up with Pentium 4 and Itanium and almost allowed Opteron to win big.

Now that TSMC has blown past Intel, it’s not looking great as AMD has reached critical mass in the server market and will soon turn their investment dollars towards AI and finally client.
All with a superior design as well as TSMC process.

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Post ID: @1fmb+1nsBId24

JIm was actually the only person in upper management that I ever saw talk honestly about Intel's problems on the technical side

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Post ID: @1fxk+1nsBId24

@rru Isn't it splitting now?

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Post ID: @hlw+1nsBId24

Jim and Bob wanted to split the company apart.

TMG has no chance and cutting the x86 and design product team would set them loose to innovate unencumbered by the high cost RD, lagging technology and fundamental broken economics of leading edge node at TMG. That is why there is IFS a decade too late. Should have been done during Bills day

Intel could be Nvidia and AMD combined unleashed but saddled with TMG will go bankrupt

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Post ID: @rru+1nsBId24

What was Jim’s proposal?

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Post ID: @myi+1nsBId24

May be JK can consider coming back as our nodes would be ready in future and he can take up the final challenge of his career to put Intel over the hump.

I know JK comes here everyday to read this forum. So making a personal appeal to him.

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