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PIP Vs PIL

In PIP season…Wondering a few things about going on a PIP vs PIL. If you decide to do a performance plan, but don’t improve (or there is no way to improve based on your environment), what happens? Are you then rolled off payroll with no severance?

If you take the PIL, will you get paid out for vacation? Does anyone know when PIL’s are off the payroll in 2023? I thought I saw something about not getting paid out for vacation but does that apply to this year or next based on accruing the year prior

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The pay duration is the same for both (3 months).

If you take the PIL, you’ve also voluntarily left the company, so no unemployment payments for you.

Probably looks better from a next employer perspective to take the PIP and start looking for a new job since you are still employed and you have a backup of unemployment payments if you don’t find a new job in 3 months. If you already have a firm job lined up, then take the PIL.

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Post ID: @1sfi+1njYAKZ7

If you are pipped.....it's much better to just sit on your a-s and wait for the payout......

There's rarely a U turn on your ranking after that.

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Post ID: @1grl+1njYAKZ7

Take the PIL. Or retire.

PIP is a set up most of the time. They want you gone. Imagine the treatment you would receive while going through a PIP.

Good luck.

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Post ID: @lsu+1njYAKZ7

Some people are already starting to go through the process of notifications this week. Does anyone know what is driving the timeline up

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Post ID: @ezy+1njYAKZ7

#we care

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Post ID: @bnt+1njYAKZ7

Feedback should happen in July; decisions should be made in August and PIP/PIL usually goes in to effect by early September. Duration for both is 3 months, or ~90 days. If you take the PIP, you’ll find out if you passed and still have a job right around Thanksgiving. If you take the PIL, your benefits expire then, and you receive your vacation payout (all that you have earned + accrued) to that point within December. Excellent timing; Merry Christmas, Tiny Tim.

If you go on the PIP, your manager should set up measurable goals to achieve, and there are periodic check points for the next 90 days to see how well you are tracking. If you pass, business as usual, but now you’ve got a huge black mark next to your name. If you don’t pass, you are terminated from the company.

Either way, it is a craptastic position to be in and your career growth @ EM is essentially over.

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