Thread regarding USAA layoffs

Let's be clear about a few things

Now that RTO guidance was released, I see a lot of posts throughout the company of individuals asking about attrition, wondering why the company would go back on their word, all that good stuff.

Let's be clear about a few things:

  • Wayne and the company do not care about your mental health.
  • Wayne and the company are not worried about attrition. In fact, people leaving is almost certainly one of the desired outcomes of mandated RTO. It's a way to reduce headcount without paying severance.
  • They don't care that your commute will be an hour each way.
  • They don't care about your childcare arrangements or lack thereof.
  • They don't care that they promised you remote work in your job offer.
  • They don't care that you'll lose out on sleep, put more wear and tear on your car, spend more on gas, or anything else of the sort.
  • They don't have unbiased data that says employees are more productive in the office.
  • They don't care that it's not fair or that it's illogical.

Employment at USAA is at will. You do not have to come into the office; you just have to come into the office if you want to remain an employee at USAA. Wayne could say tomorrow that all employees must wear clown makeup and your choices are to comply or leave. It's unfortunately that simple. This is a power play. It's not about culture, it's not about the members, and it's certainly not about "building relationships." All of that PR-approved verbiage/doublespeak.

This is about Wayne using his power as CEO to force his idea of what it means to be CEO to become a reality. Wayne had a vision for himself as CEO and what that meant. He saw himself walking through the hallways of the offices and being treated like a celebrity. He saw himself being the boss. He saw himself being respected for his authority and for being in charge. He's spent more than three decades of his life working towards this. Then, as soon as he became CEO, he had to send everyone home "for a few weeks." Those weeks turned into months, then those months turned into years. That vision that Wayne had for himself crumbled. Voluntary RTO has been available for years now and few wanted to do it because remote work is better in nearly every way for most people.

Voluntary RTO turned into "encouraged" hybrid. One day a week. Come on, it'll be nice to see your friends/coworkers. Still, no one showed up. Then RTO became highly encouraged. Still, no one showed up, not even managers. So now, the only option Wayne has left is to enforce RTO so he can get some semblance of that vision he had for himself. But he won't be respected. He won't be admired. He will go down as the most disliked CEO in USAA history, beating Bob Davis by a long shot. At least Bob Davis had the courage to tell you himself that he was going to fu-k you. Wayne hides behind his Corporate Communications puppets and relies on his direct reports to do his dirty work. He rehearses his politician answers and pretends to care, but his Patrick Bateman-esque expression shows that he could not care less.

Employee morale at USAA has never been lower. Employees with low morale are less productive. Less productive employees (and fewer of them due to layoffs and attrition) means worse financial performance and poorer member service. The Board of Directors will have very little patience for a CEO who leads the company into a situation of poor financial results, poor employee morale, under-staffing, and an unhappy membership.

So, great job, Wayne. You're getting what you want, but it will be at the expense of all of your employees.

It will be at the expense of employee morale, finances, and well-being.

It will be at the expense of the single mom who has been able to just get by on her salary because she could care for her kid at home.

It will be at the expense of the elder caregiver who now has to put their mother in a nursing home because they can't be around to care for her.

It will be at the expense of the disabled veteran employee who now has to commute two hours per day and suffer through their PTSD and agoraphobia so they can Zoom with their colleagues in another state.

So when you walk the building and see everyone's faces forcing a smile at you, think about those people. Think about the people whose lives you've upended just so you could revel in your self-importance. That's the culture now. That's what you've created. You have squeezed what little bit of employee morale remained to feed your own ego and narcissism. And you didn't even have the courage to deliver the message yourself.

You are a coward and a disgrace to USAA's once-great reputation and legacy of caring for employees.

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Post ID: @OP+1mjcWpoW

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I honestly don’t think return to work is as huge an issue as people are making ii. Yes, they lied to us saying it would be permanent, and people changed aspects of their life on that promise. But why should we expect leadership to live the Core Values they expect us to live, one being HONESTY!!

I think the problem is more, the leadership really has no idea what the problems are or how to fix them. Don’t ask the people that do the job everyday, just think you are the bosses and your ideas are golden! How’s that working out USAA leadership!!!

Senior adjusters were told when segmentation started 3 years ago, all the work would be completed by the injury adjuster and Sr injury adjusters would just be babysitting an attorney represented claimant. Those attorney represented files were to go to Sr Adjusters after 60 days, then it went to 30 days and now it is as soon as there is an attorney! This is because the injury adjusters are too busy!!! In the last year Sr injury adjusters, injury adjusters and examiners had to help non injury with 20,000 non injury files that had not been touched. Then injury adjusters were behind and had diaries over 250 and Sr injury adjusters had to take all their rollover calls, which were at least 50% complaint calls because no one had called them on their claim. So, Sr injury Adjusters were having to take time away from their work, cleaning up Injury adjusters poorly handled files and worry about dozens of time demands a week waiting for them to review!!!! Then USAA hired ALLCat to handle total loss and they weren’t handling phone calls, so we got those rollover calls. Anyone getting the picture yet?!!!!! I need a hat rack at my desk for all the jobs I am expected to do now. You want us to send training opportunities to managers on files we have reviewed. We have been doing this for 3 years with no change in file quality!! Can we all get back pay for having to do file audits for managers not doing their jobs on Injury adjuster file reviews. I can’t wait until the auditors start auditing files. Now we will see who isn’t doing their job!!!

It seems no one is just doing their assigned jobs, but being expected to perform like we are only doing our work. Being written up because we can’t get our work done. None of this is our fault. This falls on leadership. You have managers, who should not be managers. You can’t micromanage people, when they are helping every area of claims, as well as trying to do their job! People are going to be going out in FMLA, because they are not sleeping, exhausted and worried, even all this hard work, will not protect them from being let go. If you had enough employees for each division, and everyone is doing their assigned job, then letting people go would be valid. When file inventories for Senior Adjusters is 180 and into the 200 range, they cannot properly handle their files in 40 hours. Then they say, be mindful of OT!! Are they kidding? Most people are not working OT for money, they are working it to try and get their work done, so they are not written up or fired! I challenge any manager, director, VP and up to sit at a claims adjusters desk with 200 files and properly handle all the work you are expected to do in 40 hours! Live it for 6 months with the inflated inventories and a new system, which functions poorly and takes longer than the old system. Maybe then, you will understand the problems and maybe come up with better solutions. You will stop writing people up and firing good employees and taking months to replace them!!!!

Why have pulse meetings? We say the same thing every time we have a meeting, and the major problems are never addressed. Well it is at least it is an hour off the phone for the meeting, to work on a time demand!

I still remember Clyde having that meeting with claims people, with his whole staff up on the stage. He acted like he was the Wizard of Oz! Like he could grant everyone their wishes. Dorothy, the Scarecrow, the Tin Man and Lion bring back the witches broom, and the Wizard tries to get out of what he promised, after they did what he asked of them…..sound familiar!!! The difference is, this isn’t a fairy tale, this is a major insurance company that has promised their members to handle claims properly.
When Toto pulls back the curtain and exposes the Wizard as a washed up huckster who suffers from an overwhelming sense of inferiority and insecurity, he had to address his promises. So when questions were asked, Clyde’s team promised what they were going to be doing to correct the problems. Actions speak louder than words! Clyde may as well just given symbols like the diploma for the scarecrow, so he had brains, a fake heart he gave the tin man and a medal for the lion. They were all placebos to make them believe they had intelligence, feelings and courage. We are not fictional characters. We are intelligent, hard working employees trying hard everyday to take good care of our members, but under the current system and staffing, it is impossible! But you let employees feel like they are the failures, fire people that have worked hard under the current conditions and take no responsibilities for the errors of your ways!!! Then you wonder why morale is down! How did you get the positions!!!

Clyde said we were going back to taking our own calls. It has almost been a year since he said that and that still isn’t in action, still in test mode!!! I would love to just take my own calls. I could actually get my work done!! How do you show accountability when everyone is taking all these co- worker calls. Stop counting the co-worker calls we take and count the minutes spent on each call. Someone might say, I will have your adjuster call you, takes 5 minutes. Then another adjusters does the right thing will spend an hour trying to assist the caller! Try comparing apples to apples, so everyone has a fair shake at being successful. Give all adjusters at each level a list of how many files and exposures every region is handling. When one region, doing the same job has 15 files for the month and another region has 58 for the same month, how is that fair!! But what we can’t see, we can’t question, right?

Hopefully are members are reading these posts. Maybe and article in the SA Express News or on news stations, might get their attention.

I think it is funny how the company is sending the dispute dialogue and arbitration/ mediation form out to employees to sign. Sounds like people are disputing layoffs and firings and USAA wants updated signed documents. Nothing like putting stress on people who are buried in work to sign a form that benefits USAA, and you have to sign under duress or worry you will be let go!!! Just more indication of leadership using fear yo control their employees.

I understand some departments might be a picnic to work in, so you might not agree, but I am sure, majority of adjusters in auto claims will see this comments as valid!

Document every issue you find, to be able to support your complaints, if they try to fire you! They don’t have to prove anything to you, but you need to protect yourself with proof, because remember, we have core values at USAA, which two of them are honesty and integrity, which don’t seem to apply to leadership!

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Post ID: @2Qvuu+1mjcWpoW

You got one thing wrong. Neither Wayne, nor the EC, walk through the building. Never have and why would they? Own bathrooms, own buffet 3 meals per day. Rather, they monitor badge swipes and hours on campus.

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Post ID: @2Deeo+1mjcWpoW

Board and leadership, especially board I’m sure all good raises too. Of course they have a say and are ok with the decision. It doesn’t effect them. 😂

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Post ID: @16gdx+1mjcWpoW

It's creepy how they all coordinate. Reminds me of the vaccine mandates.

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Post ID: @Zkih+1mjcWpoW

The major corporations decided to roll this out all at the same time just like a back door “no compete” clause.

USAA wouldn’t have the power to force employees if every other bank was still WFH. They all made a deal and it prevents the employees from having the power to negotiate.

You can quit, but you won’t find a job that’s not currently forcing you back into office .

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Post ID: @Yzfe+1mjcWpoW

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-return-to-the-office-has-stalled-e0af9741
Regarding the "Most of the companies are doing RTO" comments:
per the article,
"The number of companies that require employees to be in the office full time has actually declined to 42%, from 49% three months ago ..."
and
"Yet financial-services companies are increasingly adopting hybrid workplace policies after leading the way in asking employees to come back full time. Currently 20% of financial-services firms require workers to be in the office five days a week, compared with 22% three months ago, according to Scoop."

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Post ID: @mptu+1mjcWpoW

Another round yesterday. I was one of them. Sad to lose my team and some great people… sad the company is being ruined by a insecure little man. Overall I’m relieved that I am fortunate enough to have a severance. That’s better than the environment that is intentionally being created to make people want to leave. USAA knows it’s cheaper to make people want to leave and that’s exactly what they’re doing.

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Post ID: @moko+1mjcWpoW

to OP:

If you WFH and do the job, the same job can be shipped to offshore. So in a way RTO is safe to our jobs IMHO.

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Post ID: @8wfu+1mjcWpoW

Wondering what will happen if RTO doesn't create a magical amount of profit? Fire the RTO "slackers"? The profit line is BS - if that was true, why the RTO delay? The execs are trying to sell us RTO as Godiva, but we all know what's really being sold, and it stinks too. The quality of lies were at least higher during the Davis era.

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Post ID: @8jml+1mjcWpoW

Help me understand why “everyone else is doing it” doesn’t matter? Come on people. The economy sucks. If you’ve got job offers lining up for remote jobs, take it. At this point I don’t care why USAA is doing it- just that I know most of my alternatives are also requiring RTO. I’ve been NMC employee for over 15 years for context not that it matters.

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Post ID: @8gjh+1mjcWpoW

I don't think you and I disagree as much as you (maybe) assume. I agree 100% that the jobs of tomorrow and beyond will probably look very different than today. About the only thing we disagree on is why Wayne is doing this...he's doing it because he (and the board and leadership) thinks it will make USAA a more profitable company.
The biggest issue I have is reading 99% of the comments and all of a sudden USAA is the worst place to work, so terrible, blah, blah, blah. All because the company wants to go back to how it was before the pandemic. Back then they didn't care about all of those things you mention but everyone still wanted to come work here. Now, people are talking about how they can do the minimum and still keep their job. That's BS---either work or quit.
Anyhow, I genuinely agree with most of what you say. Except for the Wayne thing. And this: "We should be evaluated on what we produce, not where our butts were when we produced it". I just don't think we're doing a great job with this. I'd be more supportive of WFH if we could actually monitor whether or not people are working at capacity or not. I know I'm working way harder because teammates are not carrying their fair share.

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Post ID: @8gak+1mjcWpoW

@7jcq+1mjcWpoW

OP here. Yours is the first reply I've seen that warranted a response.

"And virtually every other large and leading company is returning to the office."

This has zero bearing on what is right and wrong, good or bad.

Virtually every large company in the past allowed smoking indoors.
Virtually every large company in the past allowed child labor.
Virtually every large company in the past required formal dress — suits and ties, or dresses and heels.

I could go on, but "everyone else is doing it" is just about the worst argument one can make to justify a decision. It's the old adage every kid has heard: "If all of your friends jumped off a bridge, would you do it too?" I don't anticipate that you think we should go back to any of those old ways, so why do you use "everyone else is doing it" as a basis for your argument? The majority can be (and often is) incorrect or misguided.

Times change, and our expectations should change with them. Work from home was thrust on us abruptly. Mass remote work was unprecedented, but COVID forced individuals and companies alike to evaluate the merits of working from places other than the office.

For some people, working from the office is the right thing to do. Perhaps they can't focus at home, perhaps they have an unhealthy home life, or perhaps they just need a physical separation between work and home. That's great — more power to those people. I know there have been times in my life and career when working in the office would have been the right decision for me, and I recognize that for many others it's currently the right choice. My stance is that, for jobs that can be performed remotely, workplace choice and flexibility is now a factor that should be left up to the individual and manager to decide.

We should be evaluated on what we produce, not where our butts were when we produced it.

"But that's not how most jobs work."

A more accurate statement would be: "That's not how things have worked in the past." But here's the thing: things change.

At some point in the past, someone said "that's not how this job works" when someone wanted to use a computer instead of a typewriter. At some point in the past, someone said "that's not how this job works" when someone wanted to use a car to deliver mail instead of a horse. "That's how we've always done it" should never be used as justification for why something should continue to be done.

Americans are being squeezed harder and harder by inflation and stagnant wages. Dollars aren't going as far as they used to, but working from home allowed many people to make ends meet because they weren't paying hundreds per week in childcare. They weren't having to refill their car twice a week while gas prices soared. They weren't eating out multiple times per day. They were able to get more done around the house because instead of walking to and from Starbucks with their coworker, they were able to tidy up the kitchen and start a load of laundry.

"so sorry but comply or find another employer"

Many will. Many more will stay because they believe in the mission but disagree with this decision. This statement has the same ignorant logic as those who say "If you don't like America, leave!" It's a false dichotomy, as if one must accept something wholly and without reservation. Whenever someone presents you with a binary "either this or that," there's always a third option: neither.

"Comply or find another employer" is an unhealthy, dogmatic, borderline cult-like mentality. It's also a quitter's mindset. A quitter won't put in the work to improve their situation. They'd rather leave than speak up or make meaningful steps to fight for what they believe. People speaking up for what they believe in the face of people who think like this is how we make meaningful change. To think otherwise is to openly and unashamedly admit to being a sheep. It asserts that you will fall in line with whatever decisions are made for you — to blindly follow. It offloads personal responsibility for your own situation in favor of what your superiors decide for you. We have voices and should be not just allowed, but encouraged to use them.

Let me be very clear: I don't think you are a boot li---r. I respect that we have different viewpoints on this issue. I assume your positive intent and understand your desire to return to how things were pre-COVID. But your arguments and justifications do not hold water. They fall apart under the tiniest bit of critical thinking and scrutiny.

"Everyone else is doing it" and "that's just how things are" are ignorant, dangerous mindsets to embrace because they're the exact lines of thinking that normalized and rationalized atrocities of the past. It's also the exact line of thinking that allowed USAA to get into the compliance mess that were are/were in. We failed to adapt to the times and it bit us, hard.

The genie is out of the bottle; there is no going back. Remote work is here to stay. Leaders, particularly of the older generations, may fight it. And for now, they may consider themselves victorious. But it is now a certainty that remote work is here to stay. Employees may comply for now while the job market is slow, but make no mistake: they're just biding their time.

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Post ID: @7qgd+1mjcWpoW

LOL, I imagine there are lots of reasons for the "downvote" ...but first of all, this isn't just a "Wayne" decision. The board and leadership all gets a say, and evidently they think return to office is worth something.
And virtually every other large and leading company is returning to the office. I get it; it has been great staying home and not having to get dressed, commute, find childcare. But that's not how most jobs work. And about now I will be called a bootlicker or a boomer and be told to gtfo, but at this point the people running companies are boomers and so sorry but comply or find another employer. No one is forcing you to work in the office; but if you want to work for USAA you need to come in the office.

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Post ID: @7jcq+1mjcWpoW

This fantastic post now has a -1 in the rating count. Looks like Wayne or a minion did a drive-by here just to hit the downvote arrow. Sad.

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Post ID: @7ufz+1mjcWpoW

Exactly. The amount of sh-t that Wayne and his predecessors have gotten away with because USAA is a private company will make your head spin. I worked in Ethics several years and sweeping stuff under the rug happened on many occasions. I had to sign and NDA, but if that ever gets abolished, I’m writing a book!

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Post ID: @2wuy+1mjcWpoW

The board is complicit in all of this. They had to approve Wayne as the CEO. They could have moved Syring into the role but they wanted "continuity". On top of that Wayne and his sc-m EMG sacked 500 employees. They lied and said 1% but really it was all IT so about 20% of the workforce. Good employees with long tenures gone. They have been replaced by 3p and new positions for less money. But dont fret, all of the c-suite folks gave themselves big raises as Wayne got up there and told the employees it was the economy. He i awful and so is about 95% of the EMG. He brought wall street dogs in to hatchet jobs. Sc--w the board, they are complicit in all of this.

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Post ID: @2img+1mjcWpoW

I have several problems with that article.

  1. Human beings are social creatures and need interaction.

PS I only have time for one point, because I'm planning the Holiday party; which will be mandatory this year.

You are welcome 😁

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Post ID: @1bpx+1mjcWpoW

For a company that has Integrity as one of it's core values that's reinforced in every single meeting and training, there is a complete lack of it when it comes to how they handled RTO. I saw the writing on the wall and left last year. They completely bait and switched me from what they told me during the hiring process.

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Post ID: @1lpx+1mjcWpoW

Lol. Did we pat ourselves on the back for ethics since no one else did?

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Post ID: @1hsj+1mjcWpoW

The ethics award was posted on the side banner on connect for ONE day

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Post ID: @1gkv+1mjcWpoW

Poster below: I don’t believe USAA has won any Ethics awards from Ethicsphere since 2017.

There was a mention from compliance week in 2022 how we won the last award in 2018 & dropped off the list.

We paid for our annual Business Insider awards 😂 (purely advertising)

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Post ID: @1itg+1mjcWpoW

Between the RTO issue where remote employees can’t progress/change roles/get promoted and should be “thankful” if they fall under the exception category and watching the many times they allow rogue spend with contractors (multi-millions), I’ve lost respect for the company. Executives make a ton of money and make terrible spending decisions. They can’t agree on anything, so nothing moves fast enough. Then more fines come to make up for the lack of speed. It’s a revolving cycle… I wonder if the board knows how often they are lied to.

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Post ID: @1kwg+1mjcWpoW

Unionize

https://www.reddit.com/r/usaa_ejs/comments/12z2nyn/basic_steps_to_forming_a_union/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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Post ID: @1isw+1mjcWpoW

And USAA recently won an award for one of the most “ethical” companies. What a crock! The way this place operates raises ethical questions at minimum. The company bold face lies about everything they say and do. They are deceptive, not transparent, and proactively look to fire you. With the status quo of USAA, I’d say this is the farthest thing from an “ethical” company or a company that values its members. It doesn’t. They don’t care about anything but padding the EC’s pockets despite failure after failure. There’s nothing ethical about USAA. People are treated like objects and possessions of the company. HR does nothing to help employees; they only make things worse. If USAA is an “ethical” company, I’d be afraid to see what an unethical company looks like because I’ve never worked for a place more deceptive, dishonest, unethical, and puts time and resources into making employees as miserable as possible. Point and case - Wayne said this RTO announcement was supposed to come out over two weeks ago. Another bold face blatant lie to the entire company.

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Post ID: @1iby+1mjcWpoW

Wayne told Elon Musk to hold his beer in regards to CEOs who hate their employees. Problem is he hasn't accomplished one single thing in his tenure to get the minute amount of respect that Elon has earned.

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Post ID: @qoq+1mjcWpoW

This was great. You nailed every last point. I actually had a member stop me in the store, and as politely as he could, asked me to kick the ceo in the ba--s. Even the members are seeing this sh-t.

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Post ID: @utk+1mjcWpoW

Well said. If they ever write an update of the History of USAA book, he’ll go down in there as the worst CEO ever.

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Post ID: @zkz+1mjcWpoW

I really want to see this disasterpiece that Wayne created go viral just so we can all see Wayne's smug face just get publicly obliterated on like John Oliver or something.

Alas, that will never happen, this will all get swept under the rug

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