Why are people bashing the UK networks guys? Fair their terms are probably better than others but that's not their fault its the company's treating most employees like trash. At least they came in on their AT&T T&Cs
My experience on BAE is that the Network tower is one of the better run ships. The BAE Networks SDM HR is one of the best staff on that account honest to god dont know how she manages sometimes
They need a full review of the Networks tower from top to bottom, reorg, should weed out most of the issues.
Essentially we need to get a sniffer attached to all the network guys backside and anyone who gets a jumbo packets (large salary) and doing nothing - we just need to drop those packets.
The laid back managers are the ones that have a bunch of guys who are busy, and the same time a bunch which don't do anything.
They don't balance the work, or tackle the lazy guys.
They themselves do as little management as possible, and take all easy options.
The managers and the lazy ones need sorting.
Thanks for the kind comments. I'm very proud of the gang. They all do a fantastic job and not just on the above account.
I'm just wondering who the maid back managers are.
Also agree that H is amazing.
Good summary and matches up from my experience in run particularly on BAE - the Network Architects & Engineers are great guys, competent and generally helpful
Helen Rimmer is a damn good lead and I've rarely ever seen her shy away from helping with anything, provided it's not a BS ask
If you compare Networks to say ITO (which I think Networks is technically part of but functionally separate from Hosting & DB Infra) most of the former seem to be on fairly good pay whereas a significant chunk of the latter are on horrendous pay. Part of this is that the current network guys have come from AT&T with decent pay whereas a significant chunk of ITO are ex-entry level / juniors who've been promoted into 2nd and 3rd line roles with minimal financial incentive except that they get on call (which from what I hear is being stopped as a cost cutting measure) otherwise being on a salary of <£30k (usually mid-low 20s)
Same applies for Modern Workplace and service management. The UK MIM team are another of salaries. I remember being told by one of the MIMs they were only on £19.5k a year and another who was on less than £25k whereas the new MIMs recruited from BAE came in at about £40k - 50k. People who get promoted / given additional work don't get any financial incentive to do so which is why you have juniors being dumped into account management to face off against an angry client.
I think the biggest problem with networks is that some seem to get leeway in saying no whereas if someone from ITO, Workplace, MIM / SDMs etc said no they get a kicking
Ive spoken to a few people, It's a combination we are on a lot more pay than DXC folk and they are hurting because they are underpaid, at the same time there's some of us who are busy with work while others are getting paid top $ for dping nothing.
So firstly the ones not doing much need to be singled out, secondly we need to accept work and get on with it as there's too much resistance and delay.
Thirdly we are a separate entity on our own and need to be integrated much closer and work as DXC.
Until then we will be seen as overpaid for producing little.
Hopefully our laid back managers can sort these issues out before things get escalated .
US network team has some world class resources. Pi-s and moan on their pay and contract, not their fault. They are excellent.
Agreed, the DXC Network Engineers/Architects that I've worked with on the BAE account have been fab