I'm still in grade 5 with 4 years of experience as H/W engineer here. How do I convince my manager for a promotion ?
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This is a down year and you DO NOT want a promotion in a "down" year. I got two promotions in down years (6 to 7 in 2004, 7 to 8 in 2008). Intel guidelines say 12-15% raise with a promo and I got 3% and 5% those years (including APB but not stock). Raises are cumulative. You loose that money every year until you get a market adjustment.
Leave, easier to negotiate when you are on the outside.
That's life
@Noob.
There is no Grade 58. 50s range maxes out at 57.
But yes a 57 will fall around the G5 to G6 median.
Getting a new job offer can apply some pressure.
Is grade 58 - grade 5?
Sorry for newb question. I am noob.
Why haven't you left yet?
It should be practically automatic as another responded. Either you've got a terrible manager or you're not passing a very low bar
It's hard to have meaningful career growth in a stagnant company. No di-k chopping is going to change that.
Comments below are hilarious but show the dumpster fire of a org it is currently
If you are a gal - grow some ba--s, if a guy - some bo--s. But hurry up, before the DEI trend goes cold and follows the BLM, GPTW and alike into the dustbin of corporate history.
If you don't know your grade you can find it in multiple places
In Workday under personal Info → About Me → Job details Pane next to Job Profile
Most useful to see in pay modelling application which actually shows you the pay range for your grade. Grade is listed on the left side, you see a bar slider showing min/mid/max and where you are on the grade(This is your comp ratio %). They generally disable this tool around rewards time as the min and max get adjusted here.
To get to pay modeling app from Circuit → Pay & Benefits → My total rewards → new page click Pay and Bonuses near top → Then on new page find Pay Modeling Application
Intel is the only company I have worked at where job level/grade is private, I was told Intel has this philosophy to try and help promote best ideas regardless of where they come, prevent senior staff from discriminating. But in all honesty this still happens, its quite regular for only Grade 9+ having access to certain projects and forums. When you propose a solution the first question is who are you and how long have you been working on this... I find it much more healthy to have the transparency and more importantly to be able to celebrate others success and I miss the promotion celebrations in my other company where we would try to all rise together and build greater comradery with each's other success than the unhealthy clandestine promotions at Intel where they seem to only get announced if you become staff or progress to management. Its bizarre that a co-worker gets promoted and he has to keep it a secret... as to not offend others that didn't get elevated in that cycle. I hate it.
How do you even check what grade level you are?
No promotions this year so there's no point petitioning them. Either wait till 2024 or move
If you are a guy, the easiest way to get a promotion is to have a s-x-change surgery.
Of check your family chain if there were any minorities in your family history- hispanics, blacks, native Americans and identify as that ethnicity.
Women and minorities have a different quota of promotions at Intel and you will get one much easily!
Leave and come back. Seriously. With no merit increase this is the best plan
Your promotion should have been practically automatic from grade 5. You certainly know more than a new hire after 4 years. You’re very likely underpaid. You need to get out of that group or leave Intel altogether.
Doing next grade work, and a lot of sucking up doesn't hurt either.
… by showing you can and have been doing next grade work, assuming you know what work next grade means?
How do you know what grade you are?
You don’t convence your manager, you go get a new job elsewhere: that’d be both your promotion and your 30% salary raise in a snap!
You don't know? You are not a very good H/W engineer then.
The easiest way is being from the same village as your manager, but I assume if that was the case you wouldn’t be in this situation.
I don’t know, maybe try doing better work? I’ve heard that works in some groups but haven’t personally observed it.