Google and Amazon Struggle to Lay Off Workers in Europe
After announcing the largest rounds of layoffs in their history, US big tech companies are now learning how difficult it is to reduce headcount in Europe.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-06/google-and-amazon-struggle-to-lay-off-workers-in-europe#xj4y7vzkg
The trolls post about how people should leave.
The trolls whine about it being too easy to be forced out.
Gotta love it. Also, capitalism has brought, by far, the most prosperity for the low and middle classes when compared to any alternative. This is proven fact. Socialism, the latest darling of some, is by far the worst for those at the bottom, and by far the best for those at the top. Note that the people leading the cheer for socialism are the filthy rich - there’s a reason for that, and they’re well aware of what they’re pushing.
As we can see here in the comments Capitalism really has conditioned people to love their wage slavery and accept being treated like a disposable commodity. Stockholm Syndrome much?
Dude! Save your bullsh-t for the Marxist Dialectics forum. Nobody gives a sh-t here.
Unions are scams.
As we can see here in the comments Capitalism really has conditioned people to love their wage slavery and accept being treated like a disposable commodity. Stockholm Syndrome much?
I emigrated to the US for grad school and stay here. Before coming to the States, I lived and worked in one of those countries with unions. I got paid the same amount as the other engineers. It didn't matter that I worked longer hours or was more competent and productive. Everybody got the same. It was demoralizing. Unions don't serve the competent, hard working professional.
“The unions/government option creates a lazy workforce because the jobs are essentially guaranteed and the free market is generally abusive to workers.”
How can you compromise with that kind of black and white thinking? No one is asking for a complete removal of the free market. They’re asking to shift the balance slightly more towards workers right now. Painting an analog problem as a digital one only serves to distract from the true discussion, and enables the fat cats to get fatter.
As usual in today's society there only seems to be polar extremes... ie Unions/government protections vs free market. The unions/government option creates a lazy workforce because the jobs are essentially guaranteed and the free market is generally abusive to workers. We need a middle ground. I don't expect that to happen any time soon but compromise would be nice for a change. It worked well in the past.
Wood? Ha! I wish we had wood. We chiseled ours from a rock. Same rock we had to eat for lunch too
@3mgh back in my day we carved our CPUs out of wood.
Worker protections make you weak. Back in my day we didn't have worker protections. We just had gumption and the kind of hard character that wiping only with steel wool will give you. The walk to work was 20 miles, uphill the whole way. The walk home was 40 miles, uphill the whole way. And I still gave 75% of my income to help fight the Kaiser! Kids these days
"US big tech companies are learning..."
Example of sensationalized reporting. Big tech companies have known this for decades!
Their holidays are the same over a 7 year time frame, they just break down a sabbatical yearly.
If that is the environment you wish to work and live in, feel free to move there.
They are “holiday” constantly as well.
@lwp+1m1Qqt64 Unions make sense for "commoditized" work, where one employee/widget is identical to another and hence easy fungible and replaceable. It doesn't work so well with highly professional, highly skilled work.
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You think Airline pilots work is not “highly professional “ and unions don’t make sense?
W.r.t visas….
If there is a demand and less supply, US brings in Pilots from all over the world on H1B. Super Models from other countries come here on Genius visas.
Point being, forming unions comes under bill of rights. Bringing in workers to keep costs under control is pure economics.
American farms use Mexican labor who get paid per pound of fruits and vegetables they can pluck during harvest.
Restaurants use slave labor to keep costs down. No American is going to pay $60 for a latte or a Burger.
HR Legal from France shared that there is no way to reduce in France and Finland, not under their watch…
A big part of protecting American white collar jobs would be to reduce H1-B visas. The companies laying off the most people are the ones that hire the most H1B. No American family should be at risk of losing their jobs with as many temporary work visa workers are recruited each year.
@lwp+1m1Qqt64 Unions make sense for "commoditized" work, where one employee/widget is identical to another and hence easy fungible and replaceable. It doesn't work so well with highly professional, highly skilled work. Trying to apply it so forces one to admit that there is no skilled work and all employees are easy fungible and replaceable. Good luck if that's the case.
I find interesting that people who complain about “doing things the old fashioned way” and “not progressing into #CURRENT_YEAR#” also tend to like unions, which epitomize an old solution.
Unions make good sense for a small set of work. But applying that model more generally has shown to cause far more problems than it solves. Then you add in states that lack Right To Work laws and it becomes a mess.
Besides, for Intel, having an easy path to clear our dead weight is badly needed.
The only thing worse than having a union, is not having one!
The obvious answer is to implement better worker protections in the U.S., that and join a union.
The lesson learned is obvious: don't hire in Europe.