Thread regarding Seagate Technology Inc. layoffs

Checkmate on Hard Drives?

Company claims 300Tb SSDs coming in 2026. This would dwarf Seagate HAMR drives projected for 2026 (50Tb) and 2030 (100Tb) in 2030, assuming that they would work.

https://blocksandfiles.com/2023/03/01/300tb-flash-drives-coming-from-pure-storage/

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Post ID: @OP+1lt5sMCh

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selling the hype as its likely to be years before HAMR productization and revenue

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Post ID: @3hid+1lt5sMCh

I'm waiting for the big HAMR shipment news to sell my shares. It's going to be really rough if key customers say no thanks to HAMR and ask for the last generation PMR drives instead. I can just imagine the questions that will have to be answered. I think the CEO will bail not to long after that. He doesn't want to run a commodity company. They will bring in someone else to cut the company by 75%. So, y'all better pray HAMR works! I'm thinking 2024 will be the year for this. If Lucy pulls the HAMR football again and says maybe next year it's going to be a major blow.

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Post ID: @3gsw+1lt5sMCh

$24,000 for a 300Tb SSD at todays prices. SSD price premiums tend to go in the wrong direction as capacities go up so I’m being generous at the 24k price. Maybe 2026 will be the year that the storage world say’s good riddance to HDD’s, maybe. In the short term I’ll keep my eye cast a little farther west than California for SSD News.

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Post ID: @2cts+1lt5sMCh

The areal density growth since 2010
NAND: 33 % per year
HDD: < 4% per year
Today max HDD capacity = 26TB
To keep up with SSD (+33%/year) need to have 190 TB HDD Drive by 2030
"Seagate hoping to achieve 50TB by fiscal 2025 and 100TB by 2030"
So unless NAND slows down to the < 4% areal density growth of HDD, how can HDD compete? In terms of cost and energy consumption.
It will be too expensive to run a HDD. commodities must be cheap

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Post ID: @1gwh+1lt5sMCh

The first thing to do is change the attitude of employees. I haven’t seen one single person in Longmont that’s down to earth. Everyone is so arrogant, high headed. Everyone thinks as if they r working for Google/Microsoft

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Post ID: @1vup+1lt5sMCh

paper tiger or hidden dragon, guess we'll find out, but until then more disks = TBs

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Post ID: @1bxp+1lt5sMCh

Pipe dreams.. just like HAMR.

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Post ID: @1cwe+1lt5sMCh

"Company claims." That means lies. "

Sorta like claiming HAMR drives coming out any day now?

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Post ID: @ncd+1lt5sMCh

"Company claims." That means lies. Cost not mentioned? How hot will those get?

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Post ID: @run+1lt5sMCh

In short, Pure Storage has announced plans to develop a 300TB flash drive by 2026. This would significantly outstrip other disk drive capacity roadmaps, with Toshiba expecting to reach just 40TB by that time and Seagate hoping to achieve 50TB by fiscal 2025 and 100TB by 2030. The company's Direct Flash Modules (DFMs) are essentially collections of NAND chips with the company's operating system, Purity, providing system-wide flash controller functions. However, the technology required to produce DFMs with such high capacity is still evolving, and there is a risk that Pure Storage may not be able to deliver on its promises. Flash drives also have a limited lifespan, and reliability issues could arise with larger capacity drives. Nonetheless, if Pure Storage is successful, it could give customers access to a whole new suite of capabilities.

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