Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

This could and should have been handled much better

I remember in the "old days" when a manager would call you human2human and advise you that you were being laid off. I felt like less of a betrayal, to tell you in such a way that maintained your dignity. Dell could still do that, and have the manager inform you to expect a follow up meeting with HR. People should be close enough to their managers to get that call. Why they continue this charade of sending the mysterious calendar invitation to "review business" is beyond me. Reading a script is even worse. Layoffs are unavoidable at certain times. Just find a way to do it, that makes people feel like they ever mattered, and were appreciated regardless.

More people should read this. @shr+1l33bQQy said it well.

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Post ID: @OP+1l5vsC8x

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When I was WFR'd from Dell in 2020, during that massive culling around the start of covid, I got a late Sunday night call from my manager. He said it weighed on his conscience since we had a good relationship and I was a top performer, and he had no say in who was let go. I was also in the highest pay scale. He said he couldn't let me be blindsided and walked me through what to expect that week when I would be let go. He did that at great personal risk, and faith in me. I will never forget him, and if he is ever in a situation where he needs my help, I will always do whatever I can for him. This industry is so incestuous, you never know where you will cross paths again, and we never forget how we were treated by those we trust.

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Post ID: @ejb+1l5vsC8x

utd+1l5vsC8x Place is a mess.

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Post ID: @kam+1l5vsC8x

I got notified yesterday that I am to be laid off (officially the last day is the 10th). Manager read from the script and HR was present. Two months severence. I saw the handwriting on the wall because I was admittedly in over my head. I didn't even make it to one full year. I am relieved to be done with this mess. Time to focus on my next step and just to move forward.

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Post ID: @utd+1l5vsC8x

Depends on the situation. I've had to do to terrible lay offs over the years... it is not an enjoyable experience for ANYONE. If I know the person and have a good relationship, I will definitely give a heads up. Otherwise, you have no idea how the individual will respond and could result in a liability situation.

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Post ID: @tlm+1l5vsC8x

the people who like to talk about the old days always see things through a narrow window. Yes the old days i could do what i wanted and there was more freedom. however i had to sit next to a table of chain smokers while in a restaurant

your best course of action is to adopt and change within ---- no amount of shaking your hands at the sky will reverse how things are now

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Post ID: @sdx+1l5vsC8x

I've been laid off once. I will never be a company guy or a kool-aid drinker ever again. You're working for the 'man', you are a cog, you're replaceable. Once you realize this, it will change your perspective about employment. If you can make it on your own, that is your best bet, albeit, not easy.

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Post ID: @stk+1l5vsC8x

So, @zhl+1l5vsC8x, since you're part of the older generation, sounds like we should put the blame squarely on you, as parents and all.

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Post ID: @rly+1l5vsC8x

Yeah, well, those days were when every discussion did not lead to a lawsuit - today's generation got what they asked for.

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Post ID: @atg+1l5vsC8x

We live in cancel culture there is no human to human, you have to walk on eggshells around what you can and cannot say. The younger generation need a wakeup call and realize the world is not a nice place and the people you interact with are not your friends.

Blame it on the parents for not teaching the youth the world will not pick you up, Mom is not going to save you.

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Post ID: @zhl+1l5vsC8x

I appreciate the desire and sentiment. But in reality, anything more than what they do opens things up to liability.

We can pretend that all of us at a company are “family” and that our boss has our backs and blah blah blah, but at the end of the day, we’re just a cog in the wheel and a number on a spreadsheet with some sort of ROI attached. It’s not bad, it’s just reality; anything else is a fantasy or nicety to make the W2 slavery more palatable. Never forget that and you’ll have a much healthier perspective on your career, work-life balance, and any risk of layoffs.

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