That is true, and an excellent observation. But... according to HR wordstuff, those "older employees with the higher salaries" were promoted and rewarded based on their value to the company over their years of employment. In other words, they deserved the pay and their position which was, regrettably, eliminated. Wouldn't it be a better use of the company's limited resources to retain as many of those people as possible, to continue their valued contributions to the company? Of course it would. SAS could easily lay off two people in HR to free up salary and benefits for one who actually makes a contribution to the company, with no noticeable impact on productivity.
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Perhaps HR was not previously targeted because SAS reduces headcount primarily on a basis of salary.
That's why they have buyouts -- to eliminate the older employees with the higher salaries.
The goal is not so much waste reduction as cost reduction.
it looks like HR took a hit.
Finally. You'll never convince me that SAS is serious about IPO when the company has shed thousands of employees over the past eight, nine years but hasn't identified a single redundancy in HR.
Back to topic at hand. Not sure when the layoffs happened (last week or when the other 300 were announced), but it looks like HR took a hit.
@p1 You used your mind to invent things you cant possibly know. And your mind is quite incorrect.
If you were able to ask any of your heroes (R&D) who left for “big tech” anout me they would set you straight. But your would still find a way to know Morse about an anonymous person than the person knows about themselves. Any mind that can do that is weak at best.
You be you.
I’m sure you’ll make that somehow make sense in your mind.
You have "plenty of opportunities elsewhere" but you'd rather go down with the ship? I have a doubt, Staedert. I respect people who put family before themselves, and I respect the experience of many of the people I know at SAS who still work at SAS and deserve to retire from SAS because they personally, and heavily, invested in SAS over the many long years of their employment. But I don't believe you have plenty of opportunities elsewhere. So you were right! I made it make sense! And I used my mind to do it!
I asked chatgpt and it didn't mention scheduling flexibility :-?
It's got tons of tips on interviewing though :-)
Remember to have STAR examples to hand :-)
Yeah not sure anyone should take “I just ask copilot”’s opinion seriously.
There’s a ton of reasons why someone might stay at sas. Clearly it never dawned on you that people might value the schedule flexibility to take care of family or any number of other factors.
What a startling lack of self awareness.
@m4 Fascinating analysis of someone you never met. I worked hand in hand with the smart ones. And I chose to stay behind despite having plenty of opportunities elsewhere.
Different priorities for different people.
But go on and do your anonymous internet judgement of likewise anonymous people who you know nothing about.
I’m sure you’ll make that somehow make sense in your mind.
What I said about the other guy is true about you too. You're what the ones with portable skills, who were able to get a job somewhere else, left behind. The weird thing is that you don't seem to be aware of it. Probably because the smart ones raised the bar, which the ones they left behind have since lowered!
@jv So what you are saying is that there are tons of intelligent people still at SAS who
- Are near retirement age
- Have kids
- Aren’t known personally by you
Thanks for narrowing that down so much for us. I don’t think it was indicative of the “state of affairs” like you think it is.
lol, points for trying I guess.
Glad I'm interviewing.
All the smart people I know who a) weren't near retirement or b) have kids in college left SAS years ago. You're what they left behind. Good luck!
I wish I could say I'm sure this is tongue-in-cheek, but man. The company is cooked with people like this on the payroll. Glad I'm interviewing.
@ef never quite got that attitude
Man I just ask copilot now anyways for that kind of once in a blue moon nerd stuff :-)
Not likely given that the average reaction to "learn how to be a software developer" were whiny comments like this.
Guessing you're one of the many "Sr. Software Developer's" at SAS who need constant hand holding for things like basic K8S admin or linux cmdline tasks.
No layoffs, but some remarkable improvements made to the efficiency of the software thanks to posts on this forum.
In what division? At Cary HQ or somewhere else?
Has anyone heard anything?